CARE Fertility Bulletin Board

wendymw · 01 Feb 2008

Katie, glad that your sickness is subsiding a bit, even if not completely. Sounds like you've been busy with your jollies. Theo is doing ok with potty training, bit of a break through today as he did his first poo on potty and only a couple of small wee leaks. I may take him to the childminders on Friday see how he gets on before I'm back at work on Monday.

I'm still feeling utterly grim. This cough is getting worse and I've been throwing up I've been coughing that much and I have a permanent headache. Still broken sleep as I'm waking in the night coughing and not able to get back to sleep. I'm going to try and get to the docs tomorrow as I've had this for over a week and half now and it's not shifting. Rubbish when I'm on holiday from work and I feel so crap.

Yes I'm hoping to cycle end of May. got my review with Dr Shaker on phone on Friday (seems like an age since I cycled...) so am hoping to start after next AF. I've bought a month's worth of Diet Chef meals as I want to lose a stone or so before I cycle again then they can't call me a fatty again!

Anyway, best get on I'm going to go to bed, totally shattered all the time...

Love to everyone else.

Wendy x

Juleshid · 11 Dec 2007

Katie glad you are feeling more human again, welcome back!

Wendy hope the doc can fix you, it's rubbish being sick on holidays.

Well blood test has confirmed its all over, not really a massive surprise, just glad to have an answer so I can get on with... Well god knows what. Sad

wendymw · 01 Feb 2008

Aw jules so sorry about bloods. I know from experience how gutting it is to get that positive test then for it to be taken away. I know it's too early to think about it but at least you have got pregnant this time - small comfort I know.

Big hugs.

Wendy xx

vip · 16 May 2007

Jules - so sorry about your blood results, thinking of you x

karenmurray1970 · 24 Apr 2011

Sorry to hear about your bloods wishing you all the best for the future I know it's difficult and gut wrenching when you get that BFP and it turns into a BFN. Sending you (((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))))

Karen

AMR80 · 26 Dec 2008

Jules - I am really sorry about your blood result. Sad

It is just rubbish and the rest of the words are too rude to repeat.

Katie - Glad your 12 week scan went well and thanks for message. Hmm, I do think it will be one jeelybean and it will be the shock of my life if its two.

Wendy - Good luck with the diet. I know how tough that is. Hope Theo is doing well with his potty training.

Lucy - Hope your bleed has happened.

Anna x

Chucy · 17 Apr 2008

Oh Jules so sorry to read this Sad

be kind to yourself ((((hugs)))) to you and dh xx

Anna lots of luck for tomorrow xx

Wendy hope you are feeling abit better

VIP forgot to say earlier thank you for keeping an eye out for me

Yes af did turn up eventually after 37 days and bloods were ok so taking climaval now and started steroids today. Got intralipids this Friday and lining check Friday 20th so transfer should be the following week. Eeek.

Lol Lucy xx

Juleshid · 11 Dec 2007

Thanks all

Anna - Good luck for the scan tomorrow

karenmurray1970 · 24 Apr 2011

Hi ladies,

My new years resolution for this year was to stop trying for baby number 2, DH will not do ICSI/IVF again so it will have to be a miracle natural conception, we know this can be done as DD was a mracle conception 8 yaers ago, after 2 abandoned ISCI attempts. Its a long shot as I am 41 with a cyst on my left ovary and DH is 43 with a low sperm count.

Anyway I have failed in my mission, and I am in the last chance saloon. I need to lose 4 stone and due to being on proxac for a numbe rof years mt motabolism is very slow and sluggish. I was recommended to see a dietitian the one I was recommended to specialises in fertility and has a very high sucess rate. I am going to see her on Friday for a consultation and to collect my specialised plan.

I hope this works Smile

Karen

AMR80 · 26 Dec 2008

The scan was good as saw one strong little heartbeat measuring 9.1mm. Very Happy

I have been dated as 6 weeks and 6w 2d (2 days less than I thought so all is great). EDD is 28th November although DS was 3 weeks early.
I was feeling very sick before scan but she found the heartbeat quickly, it was such a relief as I had been worrying. She also pointed out a shadow area (an area of reduced echogenicity consistent with a haematoma) where it will be absorbed back into my body or have a bleed. Please reminds me of this soon when I panic!!!

Wendy - good luck for your phone consultant tomorrow.

Anna x

Juleshid · 11 Dec 2007

Yay

congratulations

Lucy hope your intrallipids go ok tomorrow.

Karen hope your appointment goes well tomorrow

Wendy hope you are feeling better and the potty training is going well.

J x

Chucy · 17 Apr 2008

Anna that's wonderful news I had a shadow with Emilia and did have a few bleeds. Hope it just gets absorbed so you don't have the worry xx

Jules thank you, thinking of you still and hope you are doing ok xx

Hi to everyone else.

Lucy xx

wendymw · 01 Feb 2008

Anna fabby news!

Wendy x

AMR80 · 26 Dec 2008

Wendy - how did the consultation goes? How's the potty training going? Zach thomas pants have arrived so got to work out when I am going to start.

Chucy - It is good to hear stories about the shadow things and bleeds being ok. I have had no bleeding yet which is probably a very silly things for me to say but hear it was all ok for you makes me feel a bit less worried.

Jules - How are you doing??

Anna x

MILLYCURLYLOCKS · 03 Apr 2008

hi everyone sorry not been on this week. I went to pontins with DH and DD and had a lovely time. I braved driving very scared of driving on motorway and sat nav took me everywhere lol.

wendy hope you are feeling better.

anna hope you and baby are doing well.

Jules im so sorry sending hugs x x x

AMR80 · 26 Dec 2008

Milly - sounds like you have had a good time away. Smile

Sat nav's seem to have a mind of there own. When they are working well all is good but I arrived at a destination the other day and it wasn't where I was wanting to be so I went back to using a map!

I am ok. been feeling rough today. I was so tired the room was spinning. It was as if I had drunk lots.

Anna x

wendymw · 01 Feb 2008

Hi ladies.

Jules how are you doing? I read another post you'd done on the general forum and you sound really fed up (understandably!). Maybe it is worth considering a consultation at another clinic, even if you don't decide to move from Care in the end? Hard when you don't have any ideas as to why things don't work for you.

Anna, have you got a date for your 12 week scan? Have you been discharged from Care now?

Lucy, are you having ET this week? Fingers crossed that your intrallipids went ok and everything goes to plan for you. Fingers crossed we're going to repeat history and both be successful this time around.

Milly, sounds like you had a nice few days away. How did your consultation go?

I had my consultation with Dr Shaker on Friday. He was pretty positive and said he was disappointed that it hadn't worked for me this time (but I guess he would say that). He sees no reason for me to have the full immune tests unless I wanted to have them as I've already had a successful pregnancy. He did say that sometimes imbalances can show up even in women who have had more than 1 successful pregnancy, so it's not always an indicator of whether it will work or not. Frankly I don't have the time or money to be having all the rest of the level 1 and all the level 2 tests.

He said for my next (final?) cycle he'd try a mix of drugs for stimms, so have the same dose of menopur as last time, but add a dose of gonal f as well. It will mean it costs more, but I guess it's worth a go and he said that they've been trying it at some of the other clinics and have had good results.

I also asked about ICSI, but he said that my fertilisation rates were normal for me (i.e. about the same as on my previous cycles) and that as the sperm is ok it's not worth the extra money and the invasion to the eggs have with it, so I guess that saves me paying for that!

So that's it. He's happy for me to start after my next AF, which will be due either end of this month or start May depending on times as they're always slightly skewed after cycling.

Hope everyone else is ok.

Wendy x

Juleshid · 11 Dec 2007

Wendy thats good news, cant believe its time for you to start again so quickly, guess time does actually fly when you are wishing for each day to hurry up and get on with itself. I did think about going somewhere else but I feel so bogged down by it all, I try to read all the information and I just don't feel like I'm getting it.

Milly glad you had a good time away Smile

Lucy hope everything is going to plan.

Im having quite a rough weekend, keep just bursting into tears, Im having a most childlike "its not fair" week, while i watched my neighbours bring home their new baby yesterday, my best friend from uni had her first baby last week. My friend whos child im god mother to is talking about having another one, and all I can think is why not me? I only want one (well i didnt i wouldve liked a whole bunch of em, but one will do). Oh yea and then theres DHs sister who is going to give birth in the autumn, it will be the first child, and again all i can think is why not me, my kids were supposed to be the first grandchildren and they were supposed to be here years ago. I dont care about the First thing, just their lack of existence.
I need to book my review in so I can be told its just a numbers game again, and make a plan.

DH wants to stop - as ever because he doesnt like it when im "like this", I think he forgets I will feel better - which I know I will, just need to get past it. He's been looking at adoption and wants to do that, but I cant, I cant give up on having a baby yet, no idea how i will afford it - not really got that far in my plan.

Also tomorrow is 12 years since my dad died - is a stupid time to cycle really, always end up having a BFN and that to brood over.

So my choices are force DH into another cycle - well talk him round and convince im not a complete emotional wreck (might have to wait till after tomorrow to start that), oh yea and magic up some money for it.
Look at adoption.
Do nothing.
And everytime I think about it I cry again.

Sorry for the whinge, I know we all know its rubbish, just feels good to blurt it all out occasionally.

J x

wendymw · 01 Feb 2008

Jules, so sorry that you're having one of those weekends. I have days/weeks like that when you think why me (for any number of reasons, not just baby related!). It really is totally unfair that you haven't got a baby yet. I would really press the clinic for some answers, you've been trying for a long time now and have had a lot of cycles, I don't think it's good enough for them to just say it's one of those things. If nothing else, perhaps they could look at some more tests. Have you ever had anything like a hysteroscopy (sp?) done to check that your cervix and everything are ok? It might be worth trying to eliminate everything.

I really do feel for you. You and I have cycled together a couple of times now and I know how extremely lucky I am to have my boy and I have been willing each cycle to be the one for you.

Have lots of tears and get tomorrow over, which will no doubt be painful for you.

Big hugs sweetie, I wish I could suggest something more practical, but I just want you to know that we're all here for you whenever you want to winge.

Yes, my cycle has come round relatively quickly, although it will be another 6 weeks or so before I actually start taking injections again. It's 6 weeks since my OTD now, which in a way seems much longer. March was just a horrific month that seemed to last forever.

I've been having a bit of a sort out at home. I think I've decided that if I get my house uncluttered and get rid of some of the cr*p that my life might suddenly start becoming clearer.

Anyway, might go and email the European Sperm bank. Did I mention that they still have sperm available from the donor that was Theo's 'dad'? I know this cycle was meant to be my final cycle, but I might just buy a sneaky extra straw of sperm as a back up plan, just in case.... What do you reckon? I think it might take the pressure off this cycle for me a bit.

Love to all
Wendy x

AMR80 · 26 Dec 2008

Jules - Thinking of you today on this sad day. Sad

Sorry you are having a bad few days but totally understandable. I think sometimes we need time to have it's not fair rants as it is part of the grieving process. It isn't fair that you have had bfn's and a short bfp. I really feel for you. It is especially tough when we witness others delight with their new babies or during their pregnancies or even their excitement at being able to just want another child and it to happen while our lives are put on hold. In my family I got married 3 years before my brothers and thought we would have children first but 2 weeks after my second BFN my brother rang to tell me my sil was 13 weeks pg and had her scan. I felt exactly the same as you about the first grandchild. Big hugs ((((((())))))))) I think you need to know why it hasn't worked and say the numbers game isn't a reason. You did get a positive this time for a little time. Perhaps they may up the immunisation drugs?? I personally wouldn't give up if I were you and I would hope that another cycle with imms will give you a bfp. Maybe get a second opinion from another clinic as fresh eyes can see new things sometimes( even if you don't have a cycle there).

Wendy - I think you should get some more sperm as think it could be fate that it is still available from Theo's dad and you may regret it if you don't although hopefully you won't need it! I would take the pressure off.

Anna x

MILLYCURLYLOCKS · 03 Apr 2008

hi all

Jules thinking of you. my hubby is the same he hates to see me upset and frustrates him that im so determined not to give up.

wendy my reveiw is next monday so u never know we may cycle together AF is due at the end of the month so usually start injections day 21 probably end of may. i will be having a fet but I think this may be the last go not sure if hubby would agree to more.

i have a poorly dog today not looking good for him he having an xray tommorrow and have a very upset hubby x x

AMR80 · 26 Dec 2008

Milly - Sorry to hear about your dog. My dog was very ill before he has to be put to sleep mainly due to old age issues but it was very upsetting. I hope the xray goes well.

Anna x

Juleshid · 11 Dec 2007

Milly sorry to hear about your dog hope the xray goes ok, mine has one on wednesday (nothing too serious, shes hurt her leg and we cant tell what shes done).

Wendy I think you should get some to be on the safe side too, means you can make that choice rather than having it made for you. On an unrelated note, you mentioned you did the Diet Chef thing, was it ok? Am thinking I need to do more than sporadic running!!

Lucy hope everything is going ok

Im actually feeling a lot better today, I think the thought of it leading up to it is always worse than the actual day.
We also have our review on Wednesday, because it was that or wait until June!! I was not happy when they said June, so they went away and miraculously found me an appointment ^^

Take care all

j x

AMR80 · 26 Dec 2008

Jules - It does make me laugh how there are no appts for ages than suddenly one appears. My doctors are very much like this but I now know what the key words are to get in sooner. Wink

Anna x

wendymw · 01 Feb 2008

Jules, I'm glad that yesterday wasn't as bad as you thought. You're right, the anticipation is often worse than the event.

Good luck for review on Wednesday. I thought it was bad having to wait 6 weeks for mine with Dr Shaker, but June is ridiculous!

I did buy a cheeky extra straw of sperm yesterday. Just the one. I just thought it would be good to have it as an insurance policy, just in case my next cycle doesn't work. it's funny, but I have no expectation that this cycle will work, I think I've already got it in my head that Theo will be my only one. Oh well, guess we'll see.

Jules, I am doing Diet Chef. I did it last year and lost about a stone and a half in 6 weeks (I have a LOT of weight to lose), but then I got diagnosed with the Graves Disease and over active thyroid, so they told me to stop dieting (boo!). It's the only thing that's ever genuinely worked for me. It's basically a low calorie diet, but because all your meals are made for you (you just stick the packets in the microwave) I find it the best for me, as I am very lazy, particularly in an evening as I never eat until after I've put Theo to bed and sometimes when it's nearly 8pm and I've not eaten yet, the thought of cooking just puts me off, so I'm a takeaway queen. I spend an absolute fortune on takeaway food. Anyway, I'm back up to my heaviest ever weight and I wanted to try and lose some before I cycle again, so fingers crossed.

it's not particularly cheap, but I think it's really convenient and as i say, it's the only thing that's really ever worked for me (I've tried WW, SW, Atkins and all sorts of other diets).

Wendy x