CARE Fertility Bulletin Board

Mae · 31 May 2007

Jeni
Hi & thank you for thinkng about us!
I hope that you do get your promotion as I know it is well deserved & like you I am still battling at work to get some of my previous seniority back as obviously one cannot possibly hold down a responsible job if you are "only part-time!!" And constantly battling pressure to increase my hours ... its pants really!

We (like many others) have been battling various bugs & chicken pox left my little Elena with a bacterial infection & infected spots, she is now on antibiotics & does eventually seem to be picking up as she has not been herself for over 3 weeks now. To date Alexander has still shown no sign of chicken pox but I know he is just waiting until Elena is properly better before he starts ......

Love to you,Will & Bella xx
mae xx

Briony · 06 Apr 2001

Hi Jacquie,

My parents have the same tihng going on with meals - Dad wants to lose weight (has really stuggled with hormonal treatment for prostate cancer) but he has a main meal out at lunchtime and seems incapable of learning healthy choices, then wimbles at my poor mother who has a sandwich or leftovers at lunchtime!

Off the top of my head have you considered: chicken or veg fajitas, chickpea curry with naan and yoghurt, stir fry, you can make spaghetti and meatballs with pork mince which is pretty healthy. One pot chicken pilaf type thing (Fay Ripley does a nice version in her book). Few suggestions to keep you going!

Love Briony

nicster · 19 Aug 2010

Morning ladies,

Jaquie, I know I shouldn't but I did laugh about you sick story and the dog ! Poor dog, bet it was you that had to bath him. I know what u mean about deciding what to eat, it's a nightmare, I'm the same, it's so hard pleasing everyone as well.

Mae, sorry Elena has been poorly, sounds like she's really been through it. When my big ds has ever been Ill he's only ever been off colour for a few days and bounced back but little ds well let's just say the same as with you it's goes on for weeks and the problem is he's so bad tempered with it . Hope she's fully recovered soon x

Briony, mm like your menu suggestions, think I might try some of those. How's things with you Hun ? Will you be cycling again ?

Afm. Well not at work today which is nice but got loads to do. Got try and get a doctors appointment and see if I can get my thyroid tested there rather than trecking to care, not sure if to carry on with the thyroxine or not, doesn't seem any point unless I'm going to cycle again. Does anyone know if it's ok to just stop them ? Right better get on x

Nicster x

Maple · 15 Nov 2008

Nicster - you have to consider what you want to see from the thyroid blood test (if you want one done) ... result for current state whilst you're on thyroxine or result for normal state without thyroxine.

If you are not going to cycle again, I would say to stop the thyroxine ... as being on medication long term is not good for anybody, especially when there is no need to be on them (as your normal TSH would be considered within the 'normal range'). I would still talk to your GP before you stop taking it, though. Maybe to have a blood test in a couple months' time, when the effects of the thyroxine has disappeared from your system, so that the test result will serve to reassure you that the thyroxine hasn't affected your body long term, IYKWIM.

However, bear in mind that if you do want to cycle again, it's better/easier to continue with the thyroxine, as you will need a couple of months for the effects of thyroxine to kick in and for the thyroxine dosage to be adjusted if needed.

Love,
Maple
xxx

maryrose · 04 Apr 2006

Ha ha ha ha - does anyone want a giggle on this Monday morning?

I just went into the living room with Olly's clothes for the day, to find him sat on the sofa with the french atlas.

He was apparently engrossed in a map of Calais, then he said ..................... "Mummy, where is Macdonalds on here?" ! ! !

Laughing

Completely cracked me up as it was so unexpected.
Love Maryrose xxx

nicster · 19 Aug 2010

That's the problem maple, I can't decide if I want to cycle or not. Don't get me wrong, I desperately want another baby, but I'm also realistic enough to know that the chances of that are slim. I have lost faith in care so if I did cycle again I wouldn't do it through them. I'd love to do it through ARGC but the logistics of that arent that realistic. I think I just go round in circles really, I feel like I need to know potentially what are problems are before making a decision. Is it my eggs, am I know past it even though I produce grade 1 & 2 and respond well to stimming. Is it dp's sperm ? Is it implantation due to scarring ? I definately feel it's more than bad luck. Still don't know which direction to go in, is it worth having more tests ? Is it worth going for consultation at ARGC to get a second opinion or do I just draw a line under it and accept it wasn't meant to be .

Nicster x

Maple · 15 Nov 2008

Hi Nicster,

Perhaps I am the wrong person to speak ... as I am not in the same position as you (i.e. blessed with two children already) ... so please, please, forgive me if I am about to speak out of turn.

Knowing how much you take on in terms of childcare and the household chores, another child is going to put additional 'burden' onto your (and hopefully your DH's, if he pulls his weight) life ... a 'burden' I am sure you can cope with and will love to have, otherwise you wouldn't be here continuing with IVF.

Whether to continue cycling ... it really depends how much you are willing to continue sacrificing - money, time, emotional and physical energy. I know that you said that the last cycle was your last (I have done that myself many times as well), but if you decide to cycle again whether it be with your current clinic or a new one ... you will have to be prepared to have up to another 3 cycles along with whatever additional technology/drugs required to increase your odds. eg Immunology is not a quick fix ... it may need another 3 cycles for that perfect embryo to come along and implant and go the full way.

I personally don't think I would want to know what is wrong with me, without the intention of rectifying the problem and cycling again ... it would be a total waste of money, time and energy. Like you said, there are still a lot of expensive investigative work required i.e. immunology, issues with eggs/sperms and uterine problems.

Drawing a line, and moving on ... is extremely hard to do. But it will mean that you will be able to concentrate 100% on the two miracle boys you have already got (and enjoy every moment), especially the 3 year-old boy - he won't be young and cute for much longer.

I apologise for speaking out of turn and for perhaps upsetting you (I don't mean to) ... this IF thing really sucks, as it takes the choice from us. But from my side of the fence ... the grass on your side looks green.

Love,
Maple
xxx

nicster · 19 Aug 2010

You haven't upset me at all maple, I thInk what you have said is probably spot on. I think when I think about carrying on the ivf I just imagine another cycle, but in reality you are right, alot more investigative stuff would need to be done and of course with that comes cost ! It's heart rule head again isn't it, head says get a grip, lOok what uv got and make the most of it but heart says the next one could just be the jackpot. It's been said on here many times the hardest part of the journey is definately the. Stopping, not the carrying on x

Wish that flaming magic wand of yours wasnt broken ðŸ˜‰

Nicster x

Maple · 15 Nov 2008

Nicster ... thank goodness that I have not upset you by my post ... I nearly deleted it, as things that I have said is not what someone who desperately wants another child wants to hear ... to give up, is definitely the hardest part of the journey.

Yes, you are right ... we all think that the next one will be the jackpot ... otherwise, we wouldn't try in the first place would we?

Whatever you decide to do ... we will be here to give you the support you will need.

That magic wand never worked anyway ... or else I wouldn't be here!

Take care,
Maple
xxx

Jeni24 · 12 May 2011

Hi Ladies

Nicster - I'm sorry you are still struggling even if I can completely understand why. I have just recently let my head rule my heart (quite unlike me!) - although for something much less important- and oddly it had had a very positive outcome despite my reservations and many tears along the way.

Maple - good advice although I could "hear" in your words how hard it was to write for fear of causing upset

Mae - I've texted you but thank you for your support (along with all the other ladies: Maryrose, VIP, Possum, Reds, Wendy and many more that escape me at the moment, sorry) as it means a lot. Plus I know that you have faced/ are facing similar issues so you really do understand how unjust it all feels......

That said (drum roll).....I am very pleased (and very surprised!!) to tell you that I found out this morning that I had got the promotion. I was convinced it was not to be so I am a little shell-shocked but very happy nonetheless. The downside is I will have to increase my working week to 3 days (despite the fact that I have just agreed to increase by half a day up to 2.5 days) but my boss knows that it is unlikely I can do this until January (when my husband goes back onto shift work) and he has agreed to hold the job for me. This is not a bad compromise as Will and Bella will be four by then and school will only be a short step away Sad

Maryrose - I love the French macdonalds story!!!

Must go

Love to all

Jeni

Jeni24 · 12 May 2011

Ps off to docs now about this wretched cough Sad

Maple · 15 Nov 2008

CONGRATULATIONS Jeni on getting the promotion!

A extra 0.5 day will be a small sacrifice to get the recognition and pay you so deserve.

Well done you!
Love,
Maple
xxx

Maple · 15 Nov 2008

Jeni - I am always frightened of being too honest with people with my opinions.

Sometimes it back-fires and it's unpleasant.

Love,
Maple
xxx

Snoflake · 13 Sep 2009

Jeni,
Congratulations on getting the promotion! Long overdue.

For any ladies that wish to come, I'm taking over organizing the May Lunch in Bham on the 19th May.

Love Julie xxx

possum1 · 17 Apr 2007

Nictster, you're at a difficult road right now, deciding wether to stop or have some more tests done and perhaps go again. I can't add anything more to what Maple has said.
It really all comes down to how much you want another baby and what you're willing to put yourself through to (hopefully) have a successful cycle. How does DH feel about it all?
Talking of your DH, YYYUUUUKKKK!!!! Fancy being sick and then not alone leave it but then try and hoover it up!! I can just imagine your reaction..... I hope he's done a good job of cleaning it up. I bet he wasn't feeling so good in the morning, I hope you told him to look after the kids so you could have a lie in? xx

Jaquie, just wondering if you've heard about the school situation yet. I think it was today you were going to find out? I bet you're a nervous wreck!

Maryrose, funny Olly story.., he comes out with some great ones, doesn't he.

All very quiet here tonight. DH has gone to Perth for his interview tomorrow. He needs to be there early in the morning so it made sense to stay in the city with a friend, rather than getting up at 5 tomorrow and drive the 3 hrs and get there tired.
It's not so bad being home alone once in a while. I like the fact I can just grab a snack for dinner without thinking what someone else might want to eat. Tonight I had a can of soup, and Jack had a can of baby food. How lazy is that? Smile

Right, will head of to bed soon..I'm sure I'll end up with Jack in my bed for half the night. It's become a bit of a habit now...

Love to you all,
xx Possum

possum1 · 17 Apr 2007

Jeni, our posts just crossed. Congratulations on getting the promotion! That's great news and well deserved I'm sure. Your hard work has paid off. Very happy for you.
I hope you get that cough sorted. Sad

xx Possum

Rachel R · 30 Mar 2006

Jeni - Congratulations! And such good news that they'll hold it until you are able to increase the hours. I'm sure the extra 1/2 day will be worth it.

Love
Rachxx

nicster · 19 Aug 2010

Jen, congratulations that's fab news, well done. Don't worry too much about the three days, that's what I do and it still gives you a good work life balance. Hope your going to celebrate with somethIng fizzy x

Maple, I respect your honesty, there's no point in asking for someone's opinion if all you really want them to do is tell you what you want to hear. I value other people's opinions because sometimes I can't see the wood for the trees ! I'll try and find us both a magic wand x

Possum, yuk indeed and no he didn't look after the children, believe it or not he went and played football, he was definately still green looking when he left the house though ! Have to say in his defense he made a very good job of cleaning the carpet, so good in fact there's a few more I could find for him to clean !!

Nicster x

wendymw · 01 Feb 2008

Jeni, congratulations on the promotion, I knew you'd get it!

I'm sure that working 3 days won't be as bad as you anticipate. Just think, you could be like me and work full time and never get to see your children!

Nicster, gosh, men can be gross sometimes, at least I only have myself and Theo to pick up after!

Maryrose, love the Macdonalds story, bless Olly.

Love to everyone else.

Wendy x

Maple · 15 Nov 2008

Nicster - thanks for being so good at receiving my opinions ... you'll be surprised how many people only want to hear things they want to hear (that's poor English Razz

)!

Love,
Maple
xxx

Reds(1703) · 20 Sep 2005

Jeni,

Congratulations Missy Mr. Green

No more than you deserve, mind, but well done anyway!!! The up-side to working more is that you truly appreciate the time you do have with the littlies (and to hell with the housework Razz

)

lol
Reds
xx

AuntyMand · 22 Mar 2010

Whoop-Whoop!!! Clever Jeni - YAY!!! Well done on getting the job, and well done your work on finally realising what they were missing out on!!!!

Maryrose, I've been thinking about McDonalds all day since reading your Olly story this morning. Think that's a good sign, as I'd kinda lost my appetite since being in hospital. Think I might ring DH and convince him to bring some junkfood home with him!

Jacquie, hope you got good news on the school front?

Possum, enjoy your snuggles with Jack tonight x

Rach, forgot to say how lovely the photos of Thomas on holiday were. He's really growing up.

Nicki (MummyHen), you home from hospital yet? Hope so. Hope things are progressing on the adoption front too.

Maple, hope you're well and staying strong. Your thoughtful, insightful and knowledgeable opinions are always welcome.

Nicster, you've really got it all going on, haven't you? (and pointing DP in the direction of a few more carpets sounds like a small price to pay for his behaviour)! It might not help, but in your situation, if it were possible, I'd probably take a break from even thinking about fertility stuff. In time, that break might last indefinately, but by telling yourself it's just a break you give yourself permission to believe it's only temporary, at least initially.

Love to all, thanks to Julie for offering to organise a meet up in May and I'm really looking forward to it!

Amanda x

Jacquie6 · 03 Mar 2010

Just a quick one ladies:

Congratulations Jeni. That's great news and well deserved. Wish I only worked 3 days!

Rory got the school we wanted. Hurrah! I can rest easy for a while and get it into my head that my little baby is old enough to go to school.

Be back later with more personals.

Thanks all of you for thinking of us and asking.
Jacquie x

maryrose · 04 Apr 2006

Jeni - WELL DONE! Very Happy

Really pleased for you. X

Jacquie - Great news and very envious that you are in a position of knowledge. I have decided to let it sit in my inbox for 5 days, I think, whilst we are away. i need a break!

Rachel - I have obviously missed some piccies. will go back and look...

I wonder how Alibb is doing???

Well, I just told dh the latest from up the lane and he said "I think they have lost their marbles."
I think he may be right too.

I was nosing out of our drive at teatime [its on a slight bend] and Pete The Plank [male half of the couple] was coming down in his van. He's an odd-job man. I kid you not - he accelerated when he saw my car. Its a bloody good job I stopped [I don't always as there's only 3 houses up there] as there would have been one hell of a crash if I hadn't AND OLLY WAS IN THE CAR!!!
Urgghhh! This is just what I needed. A feud. I think it will be me ringing the nice policeman to put him in the picture, before we go away on out jollies. Bit worried about criminal damage in our absence.

Love Maryrose xxx

alibluebell · 24 Oct 2007

Helloooooooo from sunny Cape Town !

Sorry I've been AWOL
- a combo of trying to get well and organised for the trip then actually Making it to the flight and here! Landed yesterday morning and it's full on back to back meetings - god they are focussed out here! Thank goodness for the wonder drug that is zoploclone to knock me out at night Smile

Sorry no personals back later but just to say congrats to Jeni I knew you'd do it Smile

And hugs to nicster and others who need them

Back when I have a space later !

Ali x