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wendymw
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:26 pm

Thanks VIP - so do I. I could do with another maternity leave from work! lol

Wendy x

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Juleshid
Joined: 11 Dec 2007
Posts: 752
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:39 pm

Hi All

Sorry I've been quiet, it has been a rough old week.

Once again thank you Maple for your amazing advise.

Wendy, good luck sorry our work is giving you grief though, hopefully you'll be on Maternity leave before you know it.

Anna - hope you are feeling better, and less deaf now

Milly - glad your review went well

Lucy - Hope everything is going well

AFM - I did a bit of a silly thing over the weekend, got a bit drunk as it was a friend's birthday, where yet another one of my friends told me she was 13 weeks pregnant, I swear it just doesn't stop. So when I got back in my drunkeness I decided Facebook would be the best place to have a go at my SIL for telling us she was having a baby by facebook message. Well obviously this started a massive fight, which was all my fault, but i was so p'd off at her for doing it that way when my friend had actually bothered to tell me to my face despite the fact that she wasnt looking forward to it - I'd like to point out that I was very good, gave her a hug and told her congratulations.

To which I got this message:
SIL wrote:
I think that after the way lee (DH) had a go at me for mentioning children before o was pregnant and not speaking to me for 3 days as a result was kind of pathetic as its totally out of character for him and likely was doing it on your behalf. Are you surprised we were afraid to tell you. Life may be shit and far from easy for you but that is no reason to make us feel guilty for starting our own family and make statements such as "if they're taking the baby for Christmas then we're not going". No, it wasn't planned but I can't help but get the impression we did it just out of spite. If you want no relationship with my son or daughter then so be it, but that means no relationship with me either. You can be the one to avoid me cos I'm not missing out on things because you are selfish. Maybe think about how the last years that we have been sensitive and not had children just for your sake may cause us to be insulted by your blatant ignorance. I may ring lee sometime for a grown up conversation.


I particularly liked the batcrap insane bit about how im ignorant for not being grateful she decided not to have kids until we did. Quite frankly if i'd known that was rocketing round her tiny little mind I wouldve nipped it in the bud, but as noone bothered to tell us, its quite hard.

Im also kind of annoyed that she knows I mentioned Christmas - I told DH that I didnt think I could handle Christmas, at the moment the idea of it breaks my heart, I also dont want to ruin their Christmas by being sat in a corner sobbing my heart out, but he was the only person I told that, I think he told his mum and somehow she opened her big trap.

So yea, kinda my own fault for being on FB drunk, but makes it all the more interesting ^^. Currently I'd quite like never to see any of his family again.

As for actual treatment and stuff, I think we will be looking at going abroad, but we have to save up first. The problem I have at the moment is not having a definite plan, if I had a date to focus on or anything it might make it easier.

J x

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4 x ICSI Sep 08 - Mar 10 All BFN
IUI DS Mar 11 BFN
DS IVF Sep 11 0 Fert
DS ICSI Mar 12 BFP - BFN
Embryo Adoption Brno Feb 13 BFP!
Chucy
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
Posts: 1976
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:54 am

Jules so sorry to hear of your stress with your sil. I hope things settle down again soon. It is so tough. Thinking if both you and dh. I hope you can agree on a way forward.

Vip thx for popping on xx

Anna hope you are doing ok not too long till your scan now. Ps just noticed you live in north Notts. I'm in Retford Smile

Afm another bfn. Had early blood test yesterday. So back to the drawing board as no frosties. We both felt kinda calm tbh. Real mix if emotions as time goes on. Feel unlucky with it not working again but with each we feel more lucky that it has worked once. So Emilia gets more special with each bfn. Also a wierd amount of relief as the bfp is only the start of the worry. I do feel wierd if I'm honest. Anyway we are going to book a holiday and think about next steps. Maybe array, maybe zita, maybe abroad and have Hol at same time.

Hope you all enjoy the bank holiday weekend. Lol Lucy xxxx

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Chucy
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
Posts: 1976
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:55 am

Jules so sorry to hear of your stress with your sil. I hope things settle down again soon. It is so tough. Thinking if both you and dh. I hope you can agree on a way forward.

Vip thx for popping on xx

Anna hope you are doing ok not too long till your scan now. Ps just noticed you live in north Notts. I'm in Retford Smile

Afm another bfn. Had early blood test yesterday. So back to the drawing board as no frosties. We both felt kinda calm tbh. Real mix if emotions as time goes on. Feel unlucky with it not working again but with each we feel more lucky that it has worked once. So Emilia gets more special with each bfn. Also a wierd amount of relief as the bfp is only the start of the worry. I do feel wierd if I'm honest. Anyway we are going to book a holiday and think about next steps. Maybe array, maybe zita, maybe abroad and have Hol at same time.

Hope you all enjoy the bank holiday weekend. Lol Lucy xxxx

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Imm ICSI Sept BFN Sad
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Maple
Joined: 15 Nov 2008
Posts: 7791
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:21 am

Sorry to barge in again.

Big hugs to Lucy ... I am sorry to hear your news. I knew you were cycling again but didn't know that you have come to the end of it. Emilia is truly a miracle and I know that you appreciate that more than ever now ... but do give yourself time to recoup from the huge disappointment of a BFN. A lovely holidy/break will be just what the doctor has ordered. Take care.

Jules - hugs to you too ... it's hard for other people who do not have IF issues, to understand and be sensitive to those who do. Forgive her (or ignore her) ... just remember, your time will come when you will be able to 'gloat' and show off your miracle baby ... stay strong!

Love,
Maple
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Jazz
Joined: 14 Nov 2007
Posts: 1507
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:53 pm

Hi Ladies,

Message for Wendymw. We have spoken a few times before. I have not been on for a while but I am cycling again and have posted a few threads for support. I just read one of your posts and I have justr recieved Pregnyl through the post from a pharmacy called fazely based in the midlands. Their online pharmacy is fertility2you and it was very reasonable also. I recieved all my drugs from there the next day.

Sorry to but in but thought I would mention it. Good luck with your cycle.

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Arthur George 8lb 30z born on 17th Dec 21:35
wendymw
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
Posts: 5865
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:56 pm

Hi ladies.

Lucy, sorry again about your BFN. I think you do have a few options, but it doesn't take away the crappiness of a failed cycle.

Jules, sorry you're having crap with your SIL too. I have made the odd ill judged comment on FB before as well (damn that social media!) and regretted it afterwards, but it sounds like she's obviously got some issues. I'm sure your MIL meant well if she did tell your SIL about Christmas, probably in a sensitive way, i.e. Jules is feeling rubbish and isn't sure about Christmas. I'm sure things will blow over, it's just a shame she can't be more understanding of how you feel. As Maple said, people who don't have fertility issues can never understand how hard it is when other people get pregnant at the drop of a hat.

Big hugs, we're here for you.

Hi to everyone else.

Wendy x

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wendymw
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
Posts: 5865
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:00 pm

Sorry Jazz, was just posting when you did. Thanks for popping by, I think I'm just going to get my drugs from Care, I know that the Ovitrelle worked for Anna, so keeping my fingers crossed!! I was going to post on a cycle buddies thread, but think most of them are a bit ahead of me, so I might just keep under the radar! lol

Thanks very much for your message and thanks for popping by. Good luck for your cycle too. I'll be keeping an eye on you!

Wendy x

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Juleshid
Joined: 11 Dec 2007
Posts: 752
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:39 pm

Lucy - so sorry about your bfn, bighugs.

Thanks to everyone else, will probably just move on as thats what we do with SIL, its just how she is, she can do/say whatever she wants and not look back *sigh* till the next I spazz out at her I guess. (I shouted at her on hols because she was being a brat and neither DH nor his other sister thought telling her to wind her neck in was something they should bother doing). I don't treat her as the family expects, because in my house that crap would never have been allowed to slide. Anyways.

Hope everyone is enjoying their bank holiday, im waiting for the rain to stop so we can take down the shed to get to what remains of our fence.

J x

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TTC 8 yrs
4 x ICSI Sep 08 - Mar 10 All BFN
IUI DS Mar 11 BFN
DS IVF Sep 11 0 Fert
DS ICSI Mar 12 BFP - BFN
Embryo Adoption Brno Feb 13 BFP!
Jazz
Joined: 14 Nov 2007
Posts: 1507
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:18 pm

Hi Wendy,

I know what you mean about sticking with the clinic. It is much easier. As my treatment abroad this time I had to shop around and that is how I got my drugs as they will accept script from CR. Ovitrille is fine I know several people who have used that one. Think I might have on one of my cycles.

Good luck. I am not really synced with anyone at the moment with Egg collection scheduled for early June.

I will keep an eye on you too.xx

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Arthur George 8lb 30z born on 17th Dec 21:35
vip
Joined: 16 May 2007
Posts: 3414
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:39 am

Hi ladies,

Chucy - really sorry about your BFN, bl*ody crap isn't it - so sorry. I'm sure you'll be able to think clearer about your next moves once you've had a nice time away from it all.

I completely relate to your comments that Emilia gets more special with every failed attempt for sibling...really brings it home how lucky we are to have them doesn't it. Every day I thank my lucky stars for Oliver.

I think that these times in limbo are particulary difficult. Hugs and love from me xx

Julie - I'm sorry to read about your troubles with SIL, must be very hard for you. Please try not to let her get you down. I'm sure things will settle down. Remember yor emotions are still all over the place and things are still raw. Big hugs xx

Going abroad for treatment sounds like an excellent plan too, you have plenty of time to save up and have a holiday at the same time (like Chucy) Very Happy I know it probably seems like a lifetime away now but your time will come and you've be holding your beautiful baby in your arms. Lots of love xx

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AMR80
Joined: 26 Dec 2008
Posts: 412
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 5:55 pm

Sorry I have not been around. I got very confused by the change of title. Embarassed I didn't realise you could do that.

Lucy - Sorry about your BFN. Sad I know Retford well. I went to secondary school there and I live in Misterton now.

Wendy - Hope your scan goes well and you fill out the correct paper first time. I was lucky to get my hands on Pregnl so didn't have Ovitrelle. Sorry to hear work is mad. Hopefully a mat leave will help, fingers crossed.

Jules- Sorry to hear about problems with your sil. It must be lovely to decide you want a child and be able to acheive it like that or its an accident -grr. I think it is an absolute cheek that your sil says they have put off having children which I dont believe at all. If they wanted them before they would have she is just trying to make you feel bad. Maybe her bloke said because of your situation they should wait because he wasn't ready. I get the Christmas thing completely. My sil was pg and going to have the first grand child in the family and I refused to see them and that stayed the case when treatment worked and Zach was born Oct and it was because of how they distanced themselves from me when they were ttc and made me feel like a social misfit. I had no idea why they stopped contacting me and it was very hurtful. Then i got the call off my brother to tell me my sil was 13 weeks pg and they had their scan that day - nice. I didn't see it coming at all. Things are fine now but it takes time.
I wish treatment wasn't so expensive. They only good thing about my sil being pg was my parents, granny and grandma funded my third cycle.

Milly - Do you know when you are starting?

Katie - Hope you are doing well.

AFM - I am looking forward to stopping the metformin and utrogestran on Wednesday and got my scan a week on Wed. Still suffering nausea and still have my easter eggs unopened which is unheard of for me. My fav food at the mo are crumpets, butter and philidephia. I tried potty training for 2 days but had to abandon as Zach was getting upset and after no wees on the potty he just wasn't getting it so back in nappies.

Anna x

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DD born Nov 12
Juleshid
Joined: 11 Dec 2007
Posts: 752
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:07 am

Wendy, hope your drugs arrived on time and all is going to plan

Anna - hooray for stopping the metformin on utrogestan Smile

Not a lot to tell for me, no sign of AF, but thats not unusual for me after a treatment, just kinda annoying as I never know when its going to turn up. Have sort of sorted it out with SIL, well I apologised some more for having a go at her across FB and she kind of ignored the fact that im upset - apparently I am just wrong, but thats how"we" deal with SIL, shes allowed to say and do whatever she wants and the rest of us tippytoe around her, if she was my sister I'd have nipped it in the bud years ago, but hey ho, she lives up in newcastle so its not like i have to actually see her very often.

We have booked a sort of holiday, we are going to see DH's godson who lives in Germany in August, so hopefully visiting combined with nice weather if im lucky. Godson was an IVf baby, and his mother keeps trying to tell me to go to the clinic she used in Bielefeld (sp?), but as Germany dont allow donor eggs I'm mostly probably not going to do that!

DH still would rather not go again, because, you know, adoption is just easier! Think I might send him to go and read the adoption threads. Bless him ^^.

J x

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TTC 8 yrs
4 x ICSI Sep 08 - Mar 10 All BFN
IUI DS Mar 11 BFN
DS IVF Sep 11 0 Fert
DS ICSI Mar 12 BFP - BFN
Embryo Adoption Brno Feb 13 BFP!
AMR80
Joined: 26 Dec 2008
Posts: 412
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 6:19 pm

Had my 12 week scan today. All was well and the baby was wiggling, kicking and put its palms to the screen. Very Happy Very Happy It was such a relief as I have been worrying that the heart may have stopped but it was beating happily. Very Happy So the little one measured 6.87cm at 13w1 (moved forward 2 days). Very Happy So since the scan which I will add was 20 mins early - good job I had been drinking water like mad early on I have been shopping in ikea, had dinner at Frankie and Bennys. I have had a fantastic day. The only bummer is over the last couple of days I seem to have mild heartburn started. Sad I suffered bad last pregnancy for alot of the time. Tried to ring doctors for gaviscon but no answer, think they have home for the day!

How is everyone doing?
Katie - how was your 20 week scan.
Wendy - how is the dr'ing?
Lucy- hope you are well
Milly - have you got a start date for your fet?
Jules - Great news about your holiday. Glad things are marginally better with sil. Sometimes I don't think people know exactly what is involved with adoption and it may seem an easier option.

Anna x

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wendymw
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
Posts: 5865
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:59 pm

Hi ladies, just a quickie, ought to be packing as we're going on holiday on Monday to Centerparcs and I'm woefully unorganised...

Anna, wonderful news that your scan went well. Sorry about the heartburn, one of those nasty side effects of pregnancy.

Jules, good that you've got a break in Germany booked, it will be nice for you and your DH to get away. Bless your DH for thinking that adoption is easier. I hope that you finally get to have a proper conversation with your DH and bring him round to your way of thinking!

Katie, hope you're doing ok, over half way there now.

Hi to Lucy, VIP and Milly.

AFM I'm on day 9 of Down Reg injections. I'm likely to have to DR for a bit longer as we're away next week (although AF is already 1 day overdue, so having DR scan this week might not have worked anyway), so my DR scan is Tuesday 5th June (they're opening the bank holidays for scans and stuff).

I'm feeling a bit ambivalent about this cycle, I'm almost forgetting my injections every day. I kind of think I'm going through the motions as I have almost no hope that it will actually work. I am also feeling quite bitter as every other woman I meet at the moment is pregnant with their second child (or third), most of them who had babies at the same time as me or after. One of the mum's of a boy at the childminders came to pick her son up on Friday and was flashing her new baby bump off, so I had to just get out of there, so I suspect they'll think I'm particularly rude.

Anyway, sorry to be a grumpy old woman. I'm feeling a bit more positive than I was (well now my second chest infection in less than a month is going and the ribs that I broke coughing are feeling a bit better). Honestly my life seems to be a cacophony of disasters at the moment!

Love to all
Wendy xx

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MILLYCURLYLOCKS
Joined: 03 Apr 2008
Posts: 503
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:19 pm

hi everyone
sorry not been on for a while lifes been pretty hectic have worries over restructure plans at work and just havent got a clue what they are planning hopefully a meeting i attend tommorw will have some answers. Well i started to DR on the 23rd and have scan on the 6th june. There is no sign of AF yet probably come a day before scan. Ive not had much time to think about the treatment and the injections seem such a routine. I wish I could be more positive about treatment but seem to gear myself up for a BFN to prepare myself for it. This will be my 6th cycle so not sure if i will cycle again after this.

Anna glad to hear all is going well x

Wendy looks like were cycling together and on long protocol are u having a FET x

Jules a holiday sounds great i could so do with a holiday x

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wendymw
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:08 pm

Milly, looks like we're cycling together as I'm on a fresh cycle again (I have never had any frosties), I started DR on 18th, but because we've been away this week (just got back from center parcs today) my DR scan isn't until Tuesday (5th), so we could be neck and neck again. I know what you mean about taking injections being part of a routine, I've had to set an alarm every night to remind me to do them! I'm suffering a bit though as I'm extremely grumpy and have got a DR headache today - it's because I'll have been DRing for longer than I need to be I guess.

Hope your meeting at work went well and fingers crossed this works for us both this time! I know what you mean about gearing up for a negative result. This is my 4th cycle (not as many as you obviously!), but it is a bit wearing and I'm not sure if I could go again after this one. At the moment it's pretty run of the mill, but once you get to first stimms scan and thinking about the number of eggs you may get, then egg collection and whether any fertilise and all the rest of that... Not to mention the dreaded 2ww.

Anyway, I hope all the other ladies are doing ok.

Wendy xx

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MILLYCURLYLOCKS
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:30 pm

hi wendy
hope your headache sas eased. im still waiting for AF to rrive i hope it comes soon. I agree the DR is the less stressful part of IVF. Hopefully this will be our turn for a BFP. It will be nice for us to be in 2ww together.

My meeting at work was not great they expecting me to be more flexible i already go oncall 24 hours a day at least twice a week. if my cycle works i will look forward to maternity Very Happy . x

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wendymw
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:30 pm

Milly my af was 3 days late this time- typical when you're waiting for it to arrive. Headache seems to have gone today and I'm slightly less grumpy!!

Work sounds rubbish. What do you do to have to be on call? It sounds a bit difficult particularly if you have kids. Let's hope this works and we both get mat leave again!!

W x

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KatieH
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
Posts: 711
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:17 am

Hi Ladies

Well thought Id give you all a quick update. My 20 week scan went well and didnt find out if boy or girl although desperate to know now as Edward keeps saying he wants a baby sister!
We have been busy recently and in the middle of buying a repossesed house. We should get contracts sorted/swapped in a week or two then we will be busy decorating and trying to rent our house out. At least the next 20 weeks will keep me busy Lol

Wendy - Glad AF arrived, it is almost always late when you need it to come. I really hope this works this time for you! certainly to get the maternity leave and then maybe find a new job next year.

Lucy - hope you have managed to pick yourself up again and think about cycling again. I know what you mean about feeling so lucky to have it work once already, they do become even more special

Anna - glad the 12 week scan went well. Will you find out at 20 weeks if buy or girl?

Millycurly locks- good luck with the cycle. Hope d/r AF arrives soon

Juleshid - hope you have a nice holiday and maybe make a decision on what to do next

Take care everyone. I will keep popping on x

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MILLYCURLYLOCKS
Joined: 03 Apr 2008
Posts: 503
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:16 pm

hi everyone

katie congrats on your 20 week scan i would have to know boy or girl im so impatient

hi wendy i support people with learning disabilities and manages a staff team of 25. can be hard work but very rewarding. how u getting on. i had to cancel dr scan no sign of af never waited this long before. the clinic had told me to call after a day of af starting. x

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wendymw
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:52 pm

Typical isn't it Milly! Sorry you're having to hang on, hope AF shows her face - ironic spend your life waiting for it not to come and then it doesn't come when you want it to. I went for my down reg scan yesterday, but scan wasn't conclusive, so had bloods, but had to wait until today for results.

Anyway, I am down regged, so just taken my first stimms. Got to take menopur and gonal f, so on 3 injections now, which is a right pain - literally! Mixing the gonal f is new as well as it's got its own syringes with it.

Katie, sounds like you're keeping very busy with the new house and being over half way there. I must admit I think I'd be more inclined to find out what I'm having second time around, although Theo was a surprise (literally coming so early, but I didn't know the sex either until he popped out). I think Theo would like a brother.

Lucy, looks like you're going to be doing the 3 jabs too. Let us know when you decide to start, you never know we might be close together again...

VIP I think you're back from jollies, so hope you've had a great time and are raring to go with your FET.

Anna, have you got a date for your 20 week scan yet?

Jules, how are you doing my lovely? Have you managed to work on your DH yet?

Anyway, hope I've got everybody. Got first stimms scan next Weds when I'll have been stimming for a week. Will be intrigued to see if the added Gonal F does anything extra. This is wierd, but I took my jabs about 20 minutes ago and I can swear I can feel my ovaries doing something. Maybe it's wind Embarassed Laughing

Wendy x

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MILLYCURLYLOCKS
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:58 pm

hi everyone

wendy glad your stimming x

well 16 days of dr and no sign of af never took this long before my boobs are killing me hope it comes soon x

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wendymw
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:04 pm

Milly, you never know, you might be pregnant - I've never had sore boobs with down regging! That would be ironic wouldn't it. I guess we can live in hope!!

Well, I'd be living in miracle world on the basis I haven't done the deed for 3.5 years!

Wendy x

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MILLYCURLYLOCKS
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:30 pm

lol wendy it sure would be a miricle since i have no tubes he he x

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