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Rachel R
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:39 pm

amanda - that's fab news. and I agree with Nicster - if you need to be me me me, I think you have every right to be and that's what we are here for.

Love
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Rachel R
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:41 pm

AFM. potty training not going well - Thomas cries everytime we put him on his little seat on the toilet, and won't go near the potty at all. Don't want to give him a complex, so we've decided just to do pants inside pull-ups, so hopefully it'll get so uncomfortable, he'll understand the need to wee on the loo. We do keep asking him, but today he's just saying no all the time, even when he then goes straight away...

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Jacquie6
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:54 pm

Amanda,
Great news that you are still cooking! You have every right to be a bit ' me, me, me' as you say. Carry on. We don't mind at all. Keep doing whatever it is you are doing. He's cooking well. I'm still betting on a boy.

Lots of love
Jacquie.

Ps be back in a bit. Jenna just monkeying in her cot.

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wendymw
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:01 pm

Amanda great news that you're cooking for another day, I can only imagine how much on tenterhooks you are. And as for me me me, I think it's well deserved and none of us would expect anything else and hope that you're coping ok.

Rachel, I don't know what to tell you, except maybe to try again later. If he's struggling to say what he wants, it may be better to leave it a while until he's better able to tell you what he wants? I was pretty lucky with Theo as I kind of knew he was ready, although the first 2/3 days are absolutely the hardest and I think you have to give it those days to try and see if he's ready or not. I just went cold turkey with it (he's only in nappies at night time now and he often kicks off to have them on, but he's not nearly dry at night yet). I also went out to the shops and let Theo choose his own potty - I know finances are limited for you, so you may not want to spend any more money, but i found it helped him as he was going on the potty he chose.

Soph sounds like you've got lots going on with the move, I'm sure that things will come together eventually and they do say that everything happens for a reason.

I hope everyone with black crosses on the door is getting better. Maryrose, glad that you've got your form done and I hope that it helps you get the statement sorted for Olly, sounds like it's been yet another stressful thing for you.

Hi to everyone else, sorry no more personals, I kind of feel a bit like I've lost the thread a bit.

Anyway, we're going to my mum's tomorrow for a jubilee party (probably inside as the weather is likely to be rubbish) and staying over and I'm going to Care on Tuesday morning for my down reg scan, so leaving Theo at my mum's (I have to be there at Cool, so hoping to start stimms on Tuesday. Will be glad to as the dreaded burselin headaches have started and I'm pretty grumpy with it! lol.

Wendy x

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Jacquie6
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:34 pm

Back again. Jenna's last two teeth are coming through so she is a Calpol junkie at night. Fingers crossed she is down for the night now.

Wendy - hope your scan goes well on Tuesday. Enjoy your Jubilee party. We're at one tomorrow night at my friends house in Leeds. It's in a field so galoshes and sweaters at the ready I think!

Rachel - have you tried Pirate Pete's Potty training book? It's a book about a little boy who is learning to use his potty. Rory loved his. We still have ours and you're more than welcome to it. Just let me know if you think it would help. I think you're quite local to us so I could either meet you or post it. As Wendy said the first few days are the hardest. Sometimes cold turkey it best. That's what we did. Though it meant we stayed in for two days and didn't set foot outside. Hope you get a breakthrough soon. I honestly found potty training the hardest thing x

Well, off to watch The Apprentice final now.

Love to all.
Jacquie x

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nicster
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:45 pm

Rachel , aaarghhh to potty training, I hated every minute of it. It's so hard to offer advice because every child is so different. Could you maybe try an incentive ? What does he really like ? Chocolate ? Stickers ? Strawberries ? I used a reward chart for zach, everytime he did a wee on the toilet ( never used potties with either of mine ) he got a sticker. The other thing is if he doesn't like sitting on the toilet let him stand, he may like the thought of being a big boy like daddy. Zach sat down for the first three days then has stood up ever since ! It's worth a try.

Good luck x

Wendy , good luck with your scan tomorrow Hun, bring on the stimms xx

Nicster x

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Rachel R
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:43 pm

Thanks for the support girls,
If it was just me, I'd be cold turkey, and just change Thomas all the time, but DH isn't comfortable with the amount of laundry that'll need doing and wants to save on trousers. We've got a reward chart (been working wonders on getting him to keep his nappy on at night), but until he actually does a wee, we can't make a massive fuss of him and give him a sticker or two! It's frustrating as we've got some hot-wheels cars in ready for each line of stickers, and he knows he'll get one for the first wee he does, which I thought would be enough to encourage him (he's a typical little boy - loves his cars)

I'd suggested we do it now so I was around for the first 4 days of it, thinking the worst would be over by then, but as it is, DH is going to have to cope with it when I'm not here next week (assuming Thomas starts co-operating)

Jacqui - thanks for the offer of that book, it could well be worth a try. Where are you? we're in Bury.


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Rachel R
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:44 pm

Jacqui - good luck with Jenna - hope she sleeps well, teething is horrid isn't it.

Wendy - hope the party goes well, this weather is typical bank holiday isn't it? It's like the weather knew the bank holiday had been moved from last week, so gave us sunshine then just to rub our noses in it! Good luck with the scan on Tuesday as well.

Maryrose - thinking of you and hoping everything is ok there.

Love to all and hope you are enjoying the extended holiday
Rachxx

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Jeni24
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:47 pm

Rachel - potty training was also the hardest thing for us, absolutely hideous. With the benefit of hindsight, I'd have left it longer and we did, at one stage, have to put Bella back in nappies full time for a couple of months (despite her seemingly having cracked it). She then sorted herself out in two days which makes me think that for some reason (no idea what!) she wasn't ready. Good luck but please don't feel you have to push forward with it if it doesn't feel right for you or Thomas. All children are very different as you know.

Wendy - good luck, I've been thinking of you. You can't lose our thread as we're always lurking to lure you back in!!!!

Got to go,love to all

Jeni

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Briony
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:19 pm

Hi Rach,

I'd go with your gut instinct too, and DH's buy-in as well as he'll be handling the weekday part of the equation. We had a potty for ages for just before bath, so she understood what doing a wee felt like (sometimes she did, sometimes she didn't). We had a bit of forward and back with learning - but I did start relatively early the first attempt, so just canned it and tried again later. In the end I used out and out bribery for poos as she'd only ask for a nappy (so knew she needed to go) and not use potty or loo, a small packet of haribo that she chose sorted it out eventually! We also had the girl version of pirate pete, its excellent.

Love Briony

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Jacquie6
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:20 pm

Rachel,
We're in Rawtenstall. If you want it it's no problem at all. We read it to Rory for a few days before we went full throttle on the potty training. Who knows if it helped but it's not a bad book whether or not.

Jacquie x

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wendymw
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:25 pm

Rachel, I had the pirate pete book as well and Theo loved it. We read it a few times for a couple of weeks before we started the potty training. I know your DH is worried about washing, but if he's ever going to be potty trained, you're going to have a few days of lots of washing. It is a pain, but I do think cold turkey is better. I also totally bribed Theo and used to give him a sweet or something every time he'd been for a wee. How about starting with something smaller for him just for sitting on the loo/potty even if he doesn't do a wee?

Jacqui, poor Jenna with her teeth. Theo only got his last back teeth a couple of months ago (he'd got the first lot ages before but the last 4 took a while to come through). Good luck in Leeds, I think it's supposed to be fine ish tomorrow, although I doubt it will be hot!

Thanks Jeni, I'm not deserting you, I honestly just don't seem to get much time to post these days and I think I'm just trying not to get too caught up in the whole posting thing whilst cycling, it's like letting people down when it doesn't work, so in a way it's easier to not talk about it as much. I am beginning to understand why ladies like our Briony keep it under their hats when they're cycling.

Anyway, got to go was going to have an early night and failed again as I'm watching this Gary Barlow programme I sky +'d. Love to all and hope you have a great double bank holiday.

Wendy xx

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maryrose
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:34 pm

Evening Ladies,

I'm in the cinema - or that's what it feels like! LOL, this monitor makes everything look HUGE! I can't believe this is what I was used to, just a year ago. Its well weird.

AuntyMand - You are top of the LLs list right now, so do feel free to lean on us as much as you like. I think I speak for many of us in saying that we are all popping on regularly for news and thinking about you constantly. XX

Rachel - To me, Thomas doesn't sound quite ready. I tried with Olly a few times and he was fairly unco-operative and so I waited until he had just turned 3yrs. I just knew the time was right, as it went so well.
That said, we have had issues since, but they are down to ASC and the over/under sensory thing and that will be on-going. I don't actually have any probs now, but ho hum, Dh does. Not sure why...
He's only ever once wet the bed since Feb before last, so he was obviously physically ready.
If I was in your position, I would shelve it for a few weeks. You won't do any harm and it will save a lot of stress.
Just read that back and I mean Olly, not Dh, ha ha ha!

A few things to report from here, but back when I can. I'm still getting over the hideousness of the last few weeks with everything that has happened and gone wrong. Been feeling quite low, tbh, which aint like me and has worried me. Hoping to pick up soon.

Lots love, Maryrose xxx
PS. OMG at today's weather. There is a music festival in our village and we have all been in our winter coats with scarves, hats and gloves. Cannot believe it after last week!

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Flossy & Eric
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:27 pm

Jacqui, small world - I moved away from the Rawtenstall area in October! Still have some friends there though although haven't been back for a while...

Amanda, glad it's not today. Hopefully your little one will keep cooking for weeks.

Rachel, we've not really started F on PT. We've had a potty for a few months, he wouldn't sit on it even fully clothed so we just left it, now he'll happily sit on it naked and pretend to do a wee. I still don't think he's totally ready as he reacts after going rather than during or before. So going to leave it for a while.

Maryrose, good to hear the form filling is done. Hope you get the result you are looking for.

Hello to everyone else, Jeni, Ali, Sophia, Mae, Nicster, VIP, Reds, Rallygirl , Possum and I know I've forgotten loads of LL's.

xxx

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nicster
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:27 am

Morning lovely ladies, can you believe I'm wide awake and the rest of the house is sleeping, I would of loved a lie in too, felt shattered the last few days ! I've hurt my arm and been in absolute agony with it the last couple of days, it's agony when I lie on it and I can barely lift it. Think Ive damaged it lifting zach. Been taking ibuprofen so hopefully that will help.

Maryrose, sorry you've been feeling down hun, it's understandable though after everything you've been through, it's a horrible place to be though when your feeling low and can't shake it. U take care and look after you x

Wendy, I know what u mean about the keeping it quiet thing when ur cycling, Ive been there myself, everyone's full of positivity and your just feeling cynical because experience tells you what the outcome could really be. God this ivf is tough x

Afm. Well no real plans for the bank holiday, we were going to go to the seaside but the weather has put pay to that. Bit fed up with the follow up treatment from the ARGC, the consultant phoned me with some test results when I was on the train home, well obviously because the train was packed I couldn't ask the questions I wanted so emailed, this was last Wednesday and I've sent two follow up emails since and nothing !!

Oh well time for a coffee I think. Hope everyone has a lovely day x

Nicster x

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Reds(1703)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:36 am

Morning Lovely Ladies Very Happy

Amanda - Very belated birthday wishes and I'm so pleased to hear that littlie is still cooking. Every day is a bonus at this stage. Sorry about the head. I hope your BP comes down to help things.

Wendy - Glad you had a good time. Hope DR goes to plan. Have you tried 4Head for the DR headache? I found that was the only thing that helped me.


Sorry for being so absent - not been able to get a signal in the poor weather Rolling Eyes Anyway, been up to Southport this weekend with DH as he was competing in the Britain Finals for his bodybuilding. Absolutely bursting with pride as he came 3rd Mr. Green I was hoping we'd be able to return to normal family life after this comp, but he's now focusing on the Universe competition in November Shocked Hey ho - it keeps him out of trouble, I suppose Wink

Hope everyone has a lovely BH. Thinking of you all, even when absent.

Lol
Reds
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AuntyMand
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:41 am

Hi ladies, bit of a rough night with some scary high BP numbers which resulted in me being transferred back to high dependency with a view to delivering the baby in the middle of the night. Cue maximum hysterics from me, as somehow everything seems worse in the dark hours. But to cut a long night short we're still here and are trying one last drug to buy another day. Phew!!

Reds, I'd love to see another picture of the very buff Mr Reds, but not sure it would be great for my health right now, lol!!!

Love to all,

Amanda xxx

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nicster
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:53 am

Amanda, big hugs, your going through such a rough time, it must be so so scary for you. Have they given you steroids to develop the babies lungs ? What is the plan when you deliver ? Is there the right type of SCBU in the hospital your in now ?

Reds, I agree with Amanda, I think the lovely ladies need some cheering up and mr reds might just be the man for the job x

Nicster x

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AuntyMand
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:22 pm

All in place nicster. Had the steroids tuesday and Wednesday and the hospital has a well equipped scbu with a nicu. Went to visit at the weekend which was a wee bit emotional to say the least. Would be a c-section if and when they do decide the time has come. Hopefully will be able to have a spinal so that I can "be there" if you know what I mean?

Could be worse. They've just brought a lady into the next bed with the same thing but she's only 23 weeks. Poor girl is really young and her English isn't great either.

I'm worried about our Julie too, as she's also been suffering.

Anyway, enough depressing stuff. What's everyone doing with the Jubilee Bank Holidays? Please make me jealous with your tales of fabulous times being had Smile!!!

Amanda xxx

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:28 pm

Oh Amanda every day will be making a difference so hang on in there.

I met a lady at a lunch in London yesterday whose friend had twin girls at 25 weeks - they are now out of hospital and doing great. You are in the best hands my love. And we are all thinking of you and willing baby to cook a bit longer. Take care hugs xxxxxxxx

Hi everyone - hope you are all well.. Feels like back to winter here - brrrrr

Back soon

Ali x

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:34 pm

Amanda we posted at same time Smile

Ok a jubilee story for you ! Me and Lucy went to London to have lunch with friends in their tower bridge flat. But the royal barge stopped 20 metres from their balcony and our view was blocked ! It was hilarious - so near yet so far! But the atmosphere along the Thames was electric and so much support on a Freezing cold day. I admire the royals standing there all that time it was perishing even on a balcony Smile

Unfortunately I got a migraine possibly too much champagne and Lucy had to escort me home - I nearly puked on the train but managed to hold on until the taxi home. He had to stop on a blind bend near our house so I could dive out of the car and vomit in the bushes Wink so not glamorous ! I could never be a Royal Smile

I'm off champagne now - for a few days anyway lol Smile

Ali x

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:51 pm

I bet it was emotional, it's tough isnt it when you plan in your head how your pregnancy and birth will be then life throws you a curve ball and has other plans for you. I know it's not the same but I had to have an emergency c section with zach, it had never crossed my mind that I'd have to have a c section because I'd already had a normal delivery and it really threw me. But in hindsight it doesn't really matter how they arrive as long as they do safely and it's what's best for baby and you. The c section isn't as bad as you think and you recover quicker than you think. It sounds like the hospital are on top of things. Big hugs Hun x

Nicster x

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Jeni24
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:10 pm

Amanda - I have been in touch with Julie (yesterday) and after the poor response from her maternity ward a day or two ago, she'd been in touch with the labour ward who'd told her to goo and get all the relevant tests done. I sent her a FB message this morning but not heard yet. I have all crossed that all is ok with her and that all these little babies can cook for as long as possible. Xxx

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:55 pm

Fab news, Amanda, that your little one is still cooking...Es everyone said, every day makes a difference...
But like you said in the middle of the night things feel so much worse...I remember when I was in hospital with Kaya they were trying to get me ready for a section in the middle of the night. I must have been around 28 weeks and I felt very scared...but a very kind nurse managed to reassure me and I knew it was going to be alright... I really feel for you..and yes, it might not be how you'd imagined things and you might not get the birth you want...but a few months down the line, none of this will matter when you've got your little one safely with you...
When I look at Kaya and how healthy she is now, it is difficult to imagine how much worry she caused before she arrived...and the same will be with your little one...Just hang on in there for another day ..and another day...and another day...
Sending you lots of love
Sophia xxx
And absolutely no pictures of Mr. Reds!!!!! Even my BP would go through the roof!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:46 pm

Evening Ladies,

Despite feeling so sorry for AuntyMand's situ. right now, I cannot help but giggle reading the comments about Mr Reds. Laughing
I am all for pictures to raise spirits [but hopefully not BP].

AuntyMand - You must be going through hell, I am so sorry. Am hoping that there are a good few days left for baby AM to grow strong.
I can imagine how scared you are and I would be just the same - trying to stave off the hour as long as poss. Huge hugs to you xx

Soph - How are the preparations going for the move??? I did smile when I read about you lifting and dividing plants. You are a woman after my own heart - ha ha, I would say that your priorities are quite right. Living things first, the rest can wait!
When we moved in here after renting whilst it was built, we had to hire a longwheelbase transit van [apart from the removal company] just to transport all the pots and plants. It was definitely worth it though. Its lovely to have plants come with you to your next life somewhere else.

Ali - That made me chuckle, but also sigh in frustration, as its the kind of thing that happens to me! How irritating.
So far, we have not watched a single moment on the box, as there has been so much happening in our village.

Cam/jeni and everyone - What is the situ with Babybird??? I have missed something. Is she ok?

Everyone - In a bit of a funny place right now [mentally] but weekend been nicer than expected so far.

Really quite hard to explain but its a strain being out and about with Master O., for more reasons than one, though that makes me sound self-pitying and I am so not. It just is hard though.
Went to barbie at customer's today and the weather was lovely. Huge garden, loads of kids of varying ages and Olly has come on loads in terms of social interaction, but 1st thing that happened was that he saw our hostess' sister's family playing with a ball, ran and picked it up and made off with it, LOL!

It doesn't make me upset but it is kind of stressy, as some sort of explanantion is needed and needs to be handled carefully. The kid's father was just looking at Olly in puzzlement and to make it a lot worse, he does not look anything like a pre-schooler so people think he is much older than he is. Added whammy. I guess people do not understand why we don't come down like a ton of bricks. [We have tried that!]
And then, when you say something, people kind of pet and sooth you whereas, it would be great if they would just accept the difference with kindness and interest. I feel like shouting "I'm not upset! I just need you to understand why he behaves like he does!"

Oh My Word! Went to his pre-school jubilee party last week and he started running round the school hall with a veritable tide of unruly children.
This is pretty funny as all the other adults were horrified at all these kids being so excited. I was ECSTATIC, as Olly was joining in!!!
Wow! How far have we come in a year? Last year that would have been completely unheard of.
But, even I had to admit that he looked a little unusual - he was easily head and shoulders above every other child there and looked easily 2 yrs older. Which is unfortunate considering the other difference.

Will finish with humour as just got to tell you all this story.
Olly is OBSESSED with farming and we went to a party today on a lovely smallholding.
Got home and Olly asked something to Dh who replied that our hostess was a farmer. Get this...

Olly - "Oh no, she's not. She's just a girl."!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked
"She's not a farmer. Boys are farmers."

And the best bit ........"She's just a wife."!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

I was horrified, but couldn't stop laughing either. My! How early sexual stereotyping kicks in.

Love to all, Maryrose xxx

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