CARE Fertility Bulletin Board

Jules747 · 27 Jun 2012

Hiya Nicster I'm on the short protocol Hun for 10 days,how u finding it I'm sooo nervous but excited too xx

Thanks Vip fingers and toes are crossed Smile

xx

CONGRATS Julie yr twins r Beaut xx

nicster · 19 Aug 2010

Aah VIP thanks for your kind words Hun, lm trying to think positive, just difficult aswell with everything else going on. Going to try though xx

Jules, yes I'm on the short protocol, I'll be a bit behind you though, I take it you start your stimulation when your af arrives, don't think I'll be at that stage till about the 10th august, I've had to extend the norethsterone tablets for a bit longer because of going on holiday. You'll be fine, the injections aren't as bad as you think, in fact the physical side of things is far easier than the emotional. Ive got everything crossed for you. If you've got any questions then just shout up, between us all we r sure to know the answer x

Nicster x

Jules747 · 27 Jun 2012

Nicster I haven't been given any tablets to take another lady said she was taken tablets I wonder why I haven't been given any,i might phone hospital tomorrow xx

nicster · 19 Aug 2010

I wouldnt worry jules, another clinic that I had a consultation at didn't use the tablets first either, when I asked nottIngham about it they said they prescribe the hormone tablets to regulate and balance your hormones before you start, I think everywhere probably does it slightly differently. Are you with care or a different clinic ? Are you stimming with menapur ?

Nicster x

Mae · 31 May 2007

Massive congratulations to Julie & big welcome to your lovely two bundles of joy, what beautiful pictures of your two , such a special time for you & your other children to bond with their new brother & sister xx Oh and welcome to the world of twins ........!!

VIP - thinking about you honey, hope all goes well this week, keep us posted x (my lining was always too thick - you just can't win!!) sure you will soon be celebrating a BFP!!

Amanda - more fabulous pictures of your little miss,tiny but oh so perfect & what a clever little lady!
My smallest baby was 7lb 9oz and I thought that was small .....!!!!

Maryrose - sorry things are just so stressful for you, can't even begin to understand how you are coping with it all, you are a very determined & hard as nails lady!! Can't wait for our trip away x

Edenrose - hope you are ok sweetie, it was lovely to meet you in Birmingham and really hope things work out for you soon xx

Have also joined the zumba craze & started going on a Monday evening - am totally hopeless and always going the wrong way / doing the wrong steps but still love it ... and it's an hour to myself yippee!!

Lots of love to all the other LL's better dash as have some work to finish off ....
Love Mae xx

Jules747 · 27 Jun 2012

Nicster we had r first consultation at The Beaumont in Bolton and had my teaching session with the nurse there but the removal of eggs and put back is at Manchester care,where r u having yr treatment Hun ?
Yeah I'm on 450 Menopur daily then start cetrotide 0.25 on day 6 xx

Rachel R · 30 Mar 2006

Julie - aren't your twins gorgeous! welcome!

Jules - I was short protocol and never took any tablets, just went straight to stims.

Mae - glad you are enjoying Zumba - it seems to be great fun - I get the impression it doesn't matter if you do it wrong, as long as you enjoy it!

AFM am really tired - spent the weekend painting (did the whole extension, and it's pretty big...). Tiles went down today (grouting tomorrow) and electrician is finishing his bit on Wednesday. New boiler is in. Can't believe how fast things are going now. It'll still be a while before it's finished though as we're away 25th - 1st and then FIL is away, so he won't be around to help put the units in.

Love to all
Rachxx

Jules747 · 27 Jun 2012

Rachel thanks for that I was beginning to panic xx

Ladies have any of u had successful pregnancys with a high FSH mine is 12.8 and I have a low ovarian reserve it's only 5

nicster · 19 Aug 2010

I'm at care notts jules, I was going to switch to the ARGC in London but they messed me about so much I decided to stick with what I know. Not sure about your levels, I know my fsh was 7 but not sure about ovarian reserve, I'm sure one of the other lovely ladies can help you with that.

Just while I'm on the subject of the ARGC ladies, they finally called me back on Friday, two weeks after having my level 2 results anyway I missed the call but rang them back, they said someone would call me back, nothing ! I rang again this morning and someone promised to call me back, suprise suprise nothing ! God knows how they get the results they do. I'd tell them to stuff it if It wasn't for the fact I want to know what drugs and protocol they would have recommended, hopefully it will be similar to care.

Nicster x

Maple · 15 Nov 2008

Nicster - what's the point ... when you have made your decision to go with Care Notts? If ARGC comes back with a different protocol or drugs ... you would only go worrying about whether it's their protocol/drugs which give them their higher success rates, and whether you have given yourself the best chance possible by going with Care Notts.

Just stop stressing about ARGC and trying to get in touch with them ... you've got enough on your plate, by the sound of things.

Love,
Maple
xxx

vip · 16 May 2007

Nicster, I agree with Maple - please try not to give yourself more stress and worries thinking about the what ifs with ARGC ...it's irrelevant and unimportant to you now especially with you having that winning protocol on your hands Smile

!! Focus on that protocol as it seems to me it will keep you more than busy with all the drugs lol!!!! You've made the right decision that's best for you and your family so please, please don't worry.

xx

maryrose · 04 Apr 2006

Just bobbed on to have a read and I can't stop giggling at Rosemummy's comment about her lack of hair! That is so funny Laughing

I too wondered [just like VIP] if your little ones glorious tresses gave you indigestion, Babybird. Or is it just a myth?
Olly was baldilocks for AGES. In fact, he was born without eyelashes, but you could just see them about to come out of the hair follicle. I still had v bad indigestion though!

Mae - thanks for text and I am just about to have a look at vacancies. I was a bit annoyed with the website last time I looked, as every single option I viewed came up with "only one room left, book now!" Hmmmmmm....... Twisted Evil

I think I may phone them actually. What kind of a room are you thinking of?
A twin would be prefect for myself and Olly. Will you have travel cots?

Oh and by the way - what a bummer! I want to do Zumba with you as that is just what I am like - I cannot recall sequences to save my life! What a team we would be, ha ha Laughing

There is a beginners class in the village.

Soph - I think a renovation is just your thing [sorry Maple]. It is fab, but quite stressful, but you end up with a dream house that you could not have afforded to buy. I somehow think it is the kind of project that you would really get your teeth into and thrive on. I think you live on the edge [re stress] a bit like me and could handle it.

Everyone - Olly been to see school no.1 today [after most children had gone] and it was a very successful visit. He was quite astonishingly calm [for him] and so chatty and sociable.
PMSL - He found a stag's skull complete with antlers and informed myself and the SEN lady that "its not a skeleton - its PART of a skeleton."
Interesting to watch him in action - very intelligent observations on things and he seemed to love it, so all good so far. Blinking fingers crossed. I so hope he will go to that school.

Nicster - As you might have guessed, I am familiar with challenging behaviour! Rolling Eyes

Olly is prone to attacks of temper and we have massively reduced them by adopting our parenting to his needs.
I recommend a) no shouting. You are in charge. Shouting brings you down to his level. b) a very firm tone that does not brook argument. No eye contact when things are going pearshaped. c) Traffic lights - these work so well with Olly and are used in all progressive childcare settings for children who pose challenging behaviour. Details if you want them. They are easy to make. d) If Olly really oversteps the mark and his behaviour is unacceptable, he is sent to his room for 5 mins to cool his heels [and so I can cool down too!]

Gotta go - I am multi-tasking!
Love Maryrose xxx

nicster · 19 Aug 2010

VIP and maple, when look at it like that then you are right, hadn't thought about it that way. My head is just so all over the place at the minute I can't seem to see the wood for the trees, thanks ladies.

Maryrose, I really would appreciate the traffic light info, I don't seem to be sticking to one particular strategy and I think the inconsistency is making things worse. Very interesting about the eye contact. So any other tips would be greatly received. Thanks Hun x

Nicster x

maryrose · 04 Apr 2006

Hi Nicster,

I think you are stressed lady! As Maple and VIP advocate, foget about the ARGHH[!] clinic and concentrate your best efforts on what you have decided ... unless you are still unsure, in which case you need to reconsider, babe. Its a ladies perogative to change her mind.

Ok, Zach. Remember, he is just a little tot and you are the adult. So, you need to show him how to behave.
When Olly does the tantrum thing, I do not engage with him, except to say "Shouting will not get you what you want and neither will arm waving or throwing things. Calm down and tell me what you want."
I say it in a cool and quite dispassionate way so that Olly knows he isn't getting a reaction from his anti-social behaviour. He does not like this BUT I am always receptive to good communication when he calms down and talks properly and I always try to encourage this too. He now knows this.
9 out of 10 times it works. I hardly ever get a full scale tantrum and this is from a child who has social and communication difficulties. Dh is still in training Rolling Eyes

Got to go but back in a short while with the traffic light info.
Got to tuck Olly up! XXX

Rachel R · 30 Mar 2006

actually, Maryrose, would appreciate the traffic light info as well. Thomas has started being quite challenging and hits a lot. DH told him not to hit anyone, daddy, mummy or the cats, with his hands. So he headbutted instead... positive is that at least he did what he was told! Laughing

and, tbh, Soph, both me & DH would love a renovation project like that. DH is now wishing he'd organised the building of the extension himself, getting the workmen in as and when, rather than using a builder. That's what he's doing now we're finishing it off and he feels much better about it all. It's the cost that puts us off doing a full house - we could never afford the type of house we'd like to renovate in the first place, no matter what the condition! Oh well, I guess I'd better buy a lottery ticket!

Lil Elvis · 01 Jul 2008

Maryrose - I need traffic lights too!

maryrose · 04 Apr 2006

Hi again Rachel and Nicster

The traffic lights are simply coloured cardboard discs that are laminated.
So, you have a red one, a green one and an amber one. And a yellow one with a smiley face on one side and a downturned mouth face on the other.
They are kept together on one ring and need to be on hand as the effect is lost if you don't use them immediately. Playleaders have them clipped to their belts.

They have more than 1 use and are useful for transition time, which we have a prob with. If your tot won't leave what he/she is doing you can either a) show the red "playtime is finished" for example, or b) show the amber "1 minute before we finish playtime", for example. Then show the red after the minute is up.

Ok, that is transition but traffic lights are great for behavioural issues.
Soon as you are seeing something you don't want to see, show the red card and say a firm "No." Then show the amber card and say "Now we are doing such and such". This is moving them on - taking them away from the flashpoint situ and distracting them from the antisocial issue. Don't make a big issue of the negative behaviour. Moving on is much more positive. The child senses the emotive response from aggression [for example] and so when they want to make a stand they learn they will get a reaction from doing that.
Moving On takes that away. Believe me, it works.
When the child responds, show the smiley face. Also, show the smiley face when your LO is behaving nicely. We are so bad at reinforcing good behaviour and yet, the majority of children are well-behaved most of the time.

I never would have believed how well this system works. I only have to say to Olly "Do you want me to go and get the traffic lights?" and he toes the line.

However, 1 thing - when dh uses them, Olly does not respond as when I do. This is because he knows he can wind Dh round his finger and also knows that I do not take any messing! You do need to be firm and really believe that you are in charge. These are little people who are looking to us for boundaries, even though it seems like they are do not recognise them! They just need you to tell them [nicely but very firmly] that you really do mean it. And you have to stick to your guns.

HTH, love Maryrose who has been in a warzone at times, honestly! XXX

nicster · 19 Aug 2010

Thankyou so much maryrose for taking the time to post all that fab information. My task for tomorrow is to make some traffic lights ! I think I am going to start by using them for behaviour first, we don't seem to have too many issues with transition. It's such a simple thing, it's hard to imagine it works but I'll take your word for it, I'm prepared to give anything a go. Your right what you say, I am very stressed at the minute and I know I've been short tempered and not handled things as well as I should, so I guess it's no wonder zachs behaviour has spiralled. Maybe I need to use the traffic lights on myself !

Thanks Hun.

Nicster x

maryrose · 04 Apr 2006

Must go back to work, but Olly just had his medical for his statement.

Wow! What a thorough and helpful gentleman. Really interesting to watch the stuff he did with Olly too.

So, no doubt in my mind now - had a bit of an inner, emotional moment when the consultant paediatrician told me that, in his opinion, Olly has high function autism and asked for permission to put his thoughts in the report.
Strangely, I actually felt relieved! I think that is because I have been convinced for some time and it was good to have someone have the courage of their convictions to actually come out and say it.

Olly to be screened at some point in the near future. Back when I can with some other details of the app There were some screamingly funny moments and some very challenging ones! Olly nearly brained us with a toy car at one point.
Love Maryrose xxx

alibluebell · 24 Oct 2007

Aww Maryrose - it must be bittersweet getting the diagnosis - hugs to you xxx

Lades a big BIG apology from me I've been a rubbish board buddy recently. Work took over for weeks and is just crazy BUT I am currently in Greece on our long awaited well deserved FAMILY holiday and it's W O N D E R F U L Smile

Hot sunny perfect setting -all 3 children very happy = very happy relaxed parents. I was on my knees on Thursday at work spent Friday in a daze packing and up 2am sat for flight - since then sheer bliss switching off and connecting with my DH and children finally Wink

I'm sending the sunshine to you ladies but not the 43 degree heat - phew ;

Hope everyone ok sorry cant go back to do personals but just especially to Julie Amanda and Sharon hope you and your gorgeous bundles of joy are all ok xxx

Ali x

nicster · 19 Aug 2010

Maryrose, sounds like youve had an emotional day, big hugs Hun, at least your really getting somewhere now x

Well had my protocol through today and it's really thrown me, at my review maha said I would be on the short protocol anyway read the protocol and it's the long one, that's really messed me up timing wise with my holiday ! Can't believe how many pills and potions I'll be taking, the drugs bill is three times what it usually is ðŸ˜žthis isn't helping my stress levels !

Hope everyone else is ok x

Nicster xx

Maple · 15 Nov 2008

Nicster - it's best to ring Care Notts and ask them to check with your consultant as to whether they have made a mistake regarding the type of protocol.

I'm afraid that immune drugs are very expensive, the most expensive is yet to come ... the intralipids. Did you not expect it? It's not worth stressing ... it's only money which you are willing to pay to give yourself the best possible chance!

Please try and calm down ... you haven't started the cycle yet ... breathe!

Love,
Maple
xxx

maryrose · 04 Apr 2006

Just to make myself clear, ladies. Olly has NOT got a diagnosis yet.

However, particularly after today, I think it is a mere formality. Got more interesting stuff to relate too but going to bed in a min. as shattered. Not sure what is going on, on the work front as had 3 new inquiries alone, last night!

Nicster - Perhaps you should query it. Can you email the consultant? I would want to check if it was me.

Ali - Have a lovely holiday.

Weather is set to improve soon ,ladies. Yippee!
Love Maryrose xxx

maryrose · 04 Apr 2006

LOL Maple - SNAP! We must have been writing the same thing at the same time. XX

Maple · 15 Nov 2008

Heehee Maryrose - clinics/consultants 'love' ladies like us who constantly question them! Mind you, many mistakes have been made in my case ... it's no wonder I check, eh?

Maple
xxx