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Wenna
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
Posts: 407
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:41 am

Hi,

Briony I'm so sorry to hear about your friend losing her little boy, you're a good friend for her to have and sending you ((hugs)) as i'm sure it's also hard for you too with all the memories and ((hugs)) for your friend and her dh!!

Robbo bet you'll find loads to do so wish we had something like that booked would love a couple of weeks in the sun seeing as yet again we've had a typically british summer...non existent - lol

Nikki - Glad you're feeling bit better hun. And you did really well coping with the twin boys next door to you i can't imagine how hard it was but you did so well to deal with it!! Fingers crossed for the re-taken immune tests hope they're clear too.
Been thinking of you as you'd said you're back at work yesterday hope it's going ok for you and not too hard. I know it's all very alien at first when you go back but am sure it'll be all ok after awhile. Sending you ((hugs))

Ali hope you're well too

Love Wen xxx

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Robbo2
Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 1150
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:55 pm

Oh Briony

Know as much as is possible from reading about genetics! This could so easily have been us. As you probably remember our first baby had Down's but this can be hereditary too so we had to go through all the Kareotype (spl?) tests etc. Thankfully it was just down to my age.

Then when DS was born he had major problems with jaundice - but not the normal stuff that babies normally get (I think this is non-conjugated bilirubinemia) but DS had conjugated which means that there is something more seriously wrong with the liver. We were in hospital for a month from his birth as his bilirubin levels just kept rising and rising. The consultant said the highest she had ever seen it reach in a baby was 76 and that was bad - DS's was 94 and rising !!!! Shocked We got told told it could be 1 of many things - all equally as bad as the other. Don't know if you ever watched a film called Lorenzo's Oil?? I had watched bits of it over the years but it was on when DS was newly out of hospital and it's about a child that has an Inborn error of metabolism - which is one of the things they were checking in DS - well I was addicted even though the film is v v upsetting. I literally tore myself up watching it as cos the liver usually clears the bilirubin and other toxins and DS's wasn't and it can cause brain damage and all sorts of horrible things - which was happenning to the little boy in the film.

Luckily DS's liver started to settle and they think it is a lazy liver from being early and cos I'm diabetic but he's still under hospital for review - so fingers crossed he will be OK. It just makes you worry when you hear such stories as your friends. Can only have a smidging of an idea of what they are going through and that was bad enough - they must be in pieces not only from their loss but also for what the future may hold. I really hope they come through the other side and get some luck. Massive ((((HUGS)))) to you all.

Wenna - on a lighter note - yes really looking forward to Florida - especially as you say as the weather here has been so bad - again!!! Not too worried about finding much to do - a nice week on the beach if the weather is good with a bit of shopping thrown in here and there will do me Very Happy . We'll have all the theme parks in Orlando the first week!

Ali/Nicky hope you're both good.

Robbo xx
nicknacknoo
Joined: 04 May 2009
Posts: 900
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:12 pm

Briony,

My thoughts are with you & your friend's at this difficult time. Life is so cruel & painful sometimes. You are a good friend. I am sure your support will help her through this very difficult time. Take care. BIG HUGS for you all xx

Robbo - You are such a strong lady, sharing your experiences just shows how much you have had to go through. You were definately put through it with DS in the early months, its like "Why not throw more at us, to see how we can cope!! IYKWIM. As if you hadn't been through enough.
I am glad to hear things have started to settle for your DS.

Wenna - Hope you keeping well & have settled back into work. I have been ok returning. Keep working on the PMA. Have been having more good than bad days. How about you hon xx

Ali - Hope you are keeping well.

Ladies - I wanted to ask. As I have mentioned before I have felt very anxious at times, been with me for about 5 months now. I am sure it is a reaction to the trauma I have been through. Did any of you have these feelings? How long did it last? I sometimes think the only way for this feeling to ever go is by having a baby.

Anyhow, take care
Bye for now
Nicky xx
Wenna
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
Posts: 407
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:16 pm

Hi Nicky,

Yes settled back into work sadly all to easily, but don't have the feelings i used to towards it i find myself totally non plussed if things aren't perfect whereas used to be obsessed that it was. Please to hear you're having more good days than bad ones now, i too am getting these. Sometimes i worry that i shouldn't be smiling iykwim but then i think Madison & Jessica wouldn't want me to be miserable.

You asked about feeling anxious from my experience yes it's totally normal hun i have moments where i feel like i'm panicking like mad but not 100% able to figure out how to calm down. I do feel like part of this is to do with wanting to have another baby but then i think mainly its just something that happens after having gone through so much. These feelings are happening less over time i think the more good days i'm having is whats lessening the anxious feelings. So i'm sorry to quote a cliche but i think its a time will make a difference.

All my counsellor tells me is let yourself feel how you feel when you feel it, and then pick yourself up and eventually you'll learn to live with things it never means you've forgotten but just learned how to manage the feelings differently. So don't worry but if you do feel really bad maybe speak to your doctor about it hun.
Hope you continue to have more good days than bad and keep up with the pma it'll be our turn soon i'm sure for things to turn around.

Love Wen xx

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Robbo2
Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 1150
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:42 pm

Hi all

Sorry not responded before now - I did get chance to read but not respond yesterday. It may look like I'm on here for hours but I just leave the computer on and leave myself logged in - so if you see my name and I'm not responding I'm probably not even in the house!

Nicky - Yes - definitely put through it - but worth it all Very Happy just hope long term he's going to be OK - fingers crossed. I went through all the normal questions in such circumstances - why us, what have we done so wrong, will we ever get there etc etc - and I'm thankful everyday of my life that we did. Having said that I wanted to be a mummy to my own child (have step kids and whilst I love them they're not mine in the sense that I nurture, look after them and make the decisions with regards to their upbringing etc) and knew that I would achieve this by whatever means it took - if you feel the same you will get there too Smile ! It may not feel like it sometimes but you will get there.

Can totally relate to the anxious feelings and the fact that you feel the only thing that will take it away is to have a baby. All totally normal but not very nice at all. As I said in a previous post I remember when I lost my LO we booked a last minute flight and went to my auntie's in Spain with my mum, dad, DP and step kids. In hindsight this was a bit traumatic taking the kids - it kind of rubbed my face in it IYKWIM! But at the end of the day DP had lost his baby too and wanted his kids close - which is only natural. When we got there all I could think about was starting treatment again and talking to anyone that would listen - including complete strangers I got chatting to around the pool Shocked . It was just my way of dealing with it. DP totally closed up and never uttered a word to anyone about anything to do with our loss - we're all different. It takes time of course just be a little easier on yourself and when the times right you'll get going again down which ever path you think is best. I started to look into every opportunity I could - donor, surrogacy, adoption. It kind of made me feel like I was being productive in achieving our baby - but again everyone does things differently and this probably appears strange to some Confused !

Wenna - hope you're doing OK. Know exactly what you mean about lack of enthusiasm for work. I used to have a job I loved which I got made redundant from before I started trying for kids. When I got made redundant I knew I was going to have to go down the IVF route and took a job that really didn't challenge me at all (was an Overseas Sales Admin Manager/PA to Sales Director previously) but thought this would help as it was easy if I was to start pelting up and down the motorway! Now having been lucky and got our baby - I have even less enthusiasm as all I want to do is be at home with him. I'm lucky in the fact that I only work P/T and I only do this to give us the nice things in life - holidays abroad, weekends away, new cars etc. I don't HAVE to work but we couldn't afford the niceties if I didn't and I want my DS to have the same things that I helped give to my stepkids!

Wenna + Nicky - I must say when I was having these horrible panic attacks I was having acupuncture to regulate periods. I told the practitioner and she did some treatment and it was so wierd. Before I went in I was obsessing about everything to do with my loss and it was all I could think about 100% of the time I was so bad. Don't know how to explain it but when I came out after the acupuncture session it was so strange I couldn't even concentrate on any thought of my loss - as soon as it came into my head it was pinged straight back out again. I have to say I was a bit sceptical but it did help so maybe worth a try??? Plus it is really relaxing as strange as that sounds - but I am diabetic and used to having needles stuffed in me twice a day!

Sorry I didn't realise I had waffled so much!

Briony - hope you and friends are bearing up.

Ali - not heard from you for a while hope you are OK too.

Robbo x
nicknacknoo
Joined: 04 May 2009
Posts: 900
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:27 am

Hi Robbo,

Lovely to hear from you. Sharing your experiences really helps. I can relate to so much that you say. I am also a step mum to 15yr boy. He has been in my life since 1.5yrs. DH & DSS have a great relationship, me & DSS do too. DSS lives with his mum, but spends lots of time here. As I write DH & DSS are out together, they go Scalectrix racing every week.
Its not the same though. DH doesn't realise how lucky he is. I am glad there is a child in my life though, we have enjoyed so many family things together.
My time will come, I have to believe in this. Although I can't deny, I have had thoughts about whats next.
Thanks also for sharing your thoughts about the anxiety I have been feeling. I am very open about what's going on for me & am thankful for a supportive network of friends & family. DH doesn't talk to anyone about our journey, other than me. I know that time is the healer.

I am trying the natural way, until I am clear about my immune results.
Have consultation on 7th Oct.

The advise re acupuncture is helpful. I think I am going to look into. How many sesions did you have ??

Wenna - Keep smiling & never feel guilty for this. You deserve to smile. IKWYMT about feeling bad for actually feeling happy - How crazy is that when you look at it. I am sure it is part of what we have been through though. It sounds like your counselling is helping. It helped me rationalise my thoughts & understand them a bit too.
I just really try to take each day as it comes & not stress about things that aren't even happening at the mo.
We'll get there, I try to tell myself these things take time.

Briony & Ali - Hope you keeping ok.

Time to sign off DH has just got in. Late one tonight. Off for 3 days now, so think I'll cope HA!!

Night Night

Nicky xx
Robbo2
Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 1150
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:22 pm

Hi ladies

Sorry it's taken me so long to reply Nicky - I couldn't find the flipping post Rolling Eyes .

Yes - I agree that it is nice to have children in your life - we too have had lots of family days/holidays that have been fantastic.

Re the acupuncture - as far as I know it was just the 1 but I was having it for balancing hormones and had some more after the stress related one - so she may have done more without me knowing. I don't know where you live but the lady I used was in Mansfield. If you tell them what you want it for they will recommend how many sessions I'm sure - it's worth a try.

Wenna & Nicky - I know how bad it feels when you laugh when you think you should be crying - but these days will get fewer as time goes by.

Hi Briony - hope you're OK and things aren't too bad with you and friends who lost their LO.

Hope you're OK too Ali.

Best be off - have been reading all the sad news today - first of Patrick Swayze (my hero! - apart from DP of course!) and then so very sadly of little Olivia (Sue's LO). I don't know the family or Olivia's history but my thoughts and prayers are definitely with them all tonight. Let's hope Olivia has joined our little angels.

God bless them all.

Robbo xx
nicknacknoo
Joined: 04 May 2009
Posts: 900
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:35 pm

Hi Ladies,

Well I posted on general forum & had a response recommending acupuncturist in my area.

Robbo - Was it you that suggested hypnotherapy? Its just someone suggested this too x

Felt a bit crappy past few days, just gettting on with it though.
Think its because its my 5th wedding anniversary today & it makes me think about not having a child. Horrible reminder!!

Gave DH permission to go scalectrix racing tonight HA! Shall celebrate together tomorrow night though. Early start tomorrow.

Wenna - Hope you are keeping ok hun x

Briony - Think of you often, hope you are ok x

Ali - How are you x

Nicky xx
Wenna
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
Posts: 407
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:48 pm

Hi Nicky,

Happy Anniversary and ((HUGS)) hope you feel bit better soon. I too have struggled past couple of days its our 6mth angelversary on Monday and i'm dreading it already. Burst into tears at my desk yesterday felt sad when i woke up but just got really bad. I stuck work out though and made myself carry on, I'm feeling little better today but know come Sunday i'll be a total mess.
My best friends coming round Monday and we're going to spend day together don't know where we'll go but least I know if i feel really bad can just talk and talk or sit in silence and it won't make a jot of difference said it's me that counts so whatever makes me feel better. I'm very lucky to have such a gr8 friend/s & family. Sounds like you do too, i hope you get to celebrate some 2mo with DH. Keep smiling hun we'll get there let us know how you go with accupuncture or hypnotherapy though!!

Just a quickie off me today though but didn't want to read and run. Hi Robbo, Ali & Briony hope you're all well xx

Wen xxx

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nicknacknoo
Joined: 04 May 2009
Posts: 900
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:54 pm

Hi Wenna,

Hope you are doing ok. I really feel for you. All of this causes so much pain. Hope you are having better moments these past few days. You sound like you have a lovely supportive best friend, It is so important to be with people & just be how you want to be. Be gentle on yourself. We can't change what has happened, but I do ask myself, why has this happened. For me, it just seems so unfair. We'll get there, got to believe in that.
Take care xx

Finally got round to ordering "The Secret" from Amazon, should be here in a few days.

Hi to evevyone else xx

Nicky xx
alibluebell
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
Posts: 2493
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:19 pm

Wen

Thinking of you this weekend and sending you lots of love, strength and positive wishes.

Monday will be tough but so lovely that you have a great friend coming round. Just keep as strong as you can and keep thinking ahead too - you will get your dream.............just believe.

Lots of love xxx

Nick - hope you are ok. enjoy thr secret - it really works!!!!

I keep using it and thinking really hard about certain people....and you know what - they get in touch the very next day!! spooky but true. sending you love and best wishes too xxx

Hi Robbo, Hi Briony.

Take care all

x

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Robbo2
Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 1150
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:22 pm

Hiya all

Wen/Nick - thinking of you and hopeing that you're doing OK. Loss of loved ones is always hard - but even harder when it's your children that you want so badly.

Wen - Try and do something on Sunday that will occupy your mind. You won't be able to stop thinking but it may help for snippits of time throughout the day.

Nick - hope you and DH can spend some quality time together. It's hard cos you'll be thinking of what could have been - but just keep positive and it will be one day.

Hi Ali - I've seen The Secret mentioned a few times - what's it all about?

We've not heard from you for a while Briony but seen you about on other threads - hope you're OK.

Robbo x
nicknacknoo
Joined: 04 May 2009
Posts: 900
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:23 pm

Hi ladies,

Wenna - Thinking of you today, sending big hugs. Hope you & your friend got to do something nice, to take your mind off things. Be gentle on yourself, sending positve wishes xx

Ali - Good to hear from you, hope all is ok with you. Book should be here in next or so, email to say dispatched.
Been doing other things to help self too, starting my work day later today, so nice long walk with my dog, also did some yoga & trying to practice some meditation. It all helps in its own way.

Hi again Robbo x
Hi Briony, hope you had a great holiday xx

Nicky xxx
Wenna
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
Posts: 407
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:47 pm

Hi all,

Well Monday went ok spent the day with my friend we had a drive to Birmingham which was good, i had a nice day and smiled. I got a little upset Monday night but that was triggered mainly from the news about that woman who killed her 2 daughters to stop her ex getting custody!?! Just hit me that some people truly don't deserve children yet those like us who want them so badly have to fight tooth & nail.

Thankyou for all your well wishes, having people like you and my friends around me really does help when i do find myself feeling low i have people to help me back up.

Nicky - Hope you enjoy the book it is good Smile Hope you're doing ok x

Ali - I keep repeating my little mantra to myself, every night before i go to sleep. How're you doing? Looks like we've got a couple more people onto reading the book now...lol x

Robbo - Hope you're well not too long now till you go to Florida lucky thing some sunshine coming your way x

Briony - Hope you enjoyed your holiday and all is well with you x

Best get on with my work now few things piled up so ought to give them some attn i guess....lol Speak to you all soon.

Love Wen xx

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alibluebell
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
Posts: 2493
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:17 pm

Wenna

Was thinking of you and glad the day passed smoothly for you x

Try not to read horrible stories - try and walk away from them and push them out of your thoughts. I know it's easy to say and it took me a long time but just keep thinking about the future, your babies and the happy times ahead xxx

Nicky - enjoy the book! x

Robbo hope you are well x

Briony have posted on BB&B x

Ali
x

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nicknacknoo
Joined: 04 May 2009
Posts: 900
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:54 pm

Just wanted to say "Hi, & hope you are all doing ok" x

I have a brief nose every day or so, & always think of you all.

Wenna - Hope you are having more positive days & the pain is starting to ease a bit. Hope life is being kind to you & helping you to prepare for any future plans.

Robbo - Hope all is good with you too & DS & DH too. Not long till your hols now. Are you just going with DS & DH, or are you SC joining you.

Ali - Hope all is well with you too x

I am glad to say that i haven't been feeling as anxious these past few weeks. Half way through "The secret". It seems to be helping me with my PMA. Have found myself telling family & friends about the book. One of my closest friends already knew about "The Secret", didn't surprise me, she is well travelled. Need to work on the visulisation though.

Have a few more days at work, then going to see my mum in Spain, not visited since March, so looking forward to it.

Anyhow - Happy positive thoughts to you all xxx

Nicky xxx
alibluebell
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
Posts: 2493
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:12 am

Hi Nicky, Wenna, Robbo and Briony

Nicky - so glad to hear the Secret is helping a little bit - I think there is a message in the book that we are all teachers and that by passing on the little messages we are all helping each other get through life's challenges - nice thought!

Hope everyone doing ok and getting stronger each day.

Bye for now

ali
x

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Robbo2
Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 1150
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:21 pm

Hi Nicky (and all Smile )

We are fine thanks - yes holiday coming around very very fast! Claire G has just got back and shared her piccies if you've seen them. It's got me all excited - especially as my LO turns 2 before we go and is quite forward in his speach - so will really be able to enjoy it this year as opposed to last. He's already cahnting Mickey Mouse when ever he sees him in my bedroom! No SC this time - oldest now nearly 20 says he can't afford it! DSD 15 and about to do GCSE's so school advised not to - so she'll be having an extra holiday added on to her 18! We said we would pay for them till 18 and then they had to find at least their flights and spending money - we would pay for everything else - DSS still can't manage it!

Glad to hear you're feeling a little better - it just takes time. I'm not sure how much I believe in PMA and visualisation but I remember the acupuncturist saying to me to visualise the embryos nestling in when I did my IVF - so I did. One go failed but we got lucky with second - so who knows?

Where abouts in Spain are you off to? I have relatives just between Alicante and Murcia and were looking to go out about May time next year but flights appear to be quite expensive at the mo - will keep looking though.

Hope everyone else is OK.

Speak soon

Robbo xx
nicknacknoo
Joined: 04 May 2009
Posts: 900
PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:12 pm

Hi Ladies,

Robbo - Well how nice that its just going to be you, DH & DS going to America, don't mean that horribly at all. I am also a step-mum as you know, & think the world of DSS. But still I know when I am blessed with my little one I know I shall value the time I have with just them & DH. I think you'll understand where I am coming from ??

I know what you mean about believing in PMA and visulisation. I don't know that I believe that alone will give me a BFP. If there were known problems, how could it ?? It helps me though with generally feeling positive, seems to have helped with the anxiety too.

Well it sounds like your relatives may be very close to mine. The only airports we fly into are Alicante & or Murcia. This time we are flying to Murcia. My mum lives in a area called Fortuna.

I saw NHS consultant today to discuss immune results & way forward. One of the tests is showing 1% higher than average, so just need to re-test for that. Chromosome results weren't there, so going to chase tomorrow. I mentioned the Chicago tests, he didn't disagree or agree, said I seem to have made my mind up to do anyway, to rule things out. He said very costly through Care, apparently George has been slated for the cost of these tests. Well I know more than the consultant thanks to this website, he said he learns things every day from ladies like us. I can ship myself to Chicago saving lots. Have already rang the lab, just waiting for a call back re shipping arrangements etc.

I feel I need to do these tests, to rule as much out as posssible. I know this still means I might never be a mummy, but with 5 frosties & being 40, I really don't want to be wasting them.

He told me about two more ladies, one at present & one last week, going through the same trauma as me. He seemed to be saying, that these things can just happen. Your body rejects the baby & it is as yet undiscovered the true cause or how to detect & treat. I was having the perfect pregnancy up to 20 weeks, how things changed within a couple of
days!!

Hi Ali - Nice to hear from you. Sorry if I have made a mistake here. Am I right that you have twins, saw this when looking around the BB. I just want to say, you have always been very supportive. You never mention your gorgeous babies. If that is because we have lost twins, please be reassured that you can mention them whenever you want. When I saw you had twins, I thought how lovely this was. x

Wenna - Hope all is good with you & you are growing stronger everyday xx

Nicky xx
alibluebell
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
Posts: 2493
PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:32 pm

Yes Nicky - we do have twin boys who were 6 months old yesterday. Will Alexander and Finn Henry. We are blessed to have them after 13 years of infertility following the natural conception of DD in 1996.

Before we embarked on our final IVF (and one and only DE cycle) I had spent years of heartache trying EVERYTHING to have another child. I finally saw a psychic and she told me to really believe and ask the universe for what I wanted. So I went out and bought little teddy bears for the babies I would have. She felt strongly it would be a boy and even said "perhaps more than one!" with a wry smile!!! That was almost a year before our success but during that time I followed her advice on believing it WOULD happen and she recommended the Secret to me. Since then I have passed the book on to so many people and I really hope some have found peace and happiness through it.

I will try and post a pic of my twins - I hope they will give you HOPE!! Never give up believing - you CAN have what you want x

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Briony
Joined: 06 Apr 2001
Posts: 8277
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:08 pm

Hi everyone,

I'm so sorry to have been such an out-of-touch buddy, I really don't know where the time goes. It breaks my heart that we've all been through so much and lost so many precious babies. Its the 4 year anniversary of losing Sam and Ben tomorrow. At this time those years ago I was in hospital hoping and praying that I'd hold on to them, despite a placental abruption, but I was already in labour I think. I know I am lucky as lucky can be to now have my little girl, but it doesn't stop you wondering how those babies would have grown and developed, and how like Hattie they might have been. Mind you, I wouldn't have ended up with her, so although I would have given anything to have them, having her here now makes it easier. I don't know that I'm expressing what I mean very well, but hopefully you'll catch my drift.

Nicky, the offer of a coffee/chat is always open. My only concern for you getting the chicago tests done yourself is that you don't then have an expert to interpret them, but maybe you could make an appointment with George (or one of the other UK specialists) at that point. I firmly believe that without George I would not have carried this pregnancy to term, he gets a lot of bad press but is one of the most caring, dedicated and kindly men I've ever met. RD at NGH is also way, way up there in my book so you're in good hands. I don't blame you for wanting to get everything investigated before going ahead with more treatment, I have been the same.

I personally know 2 people locally who lost their babies after 20 weeks and they are both mums now, bumped into one of them in antenatal, so there is definitely HOPE for you for the future, just hang on in there.

Love Briony

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nicknacknoo
Joined: 04 May 2009
Posts: 900
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:28 pm

Hi everyone,
Just a quick reply to Briony, as its late, was just having a quick nose before going to bed. Yes I would like to take up your offer of meeting for a coffee. I am going to Spain tomorrow until wed. Am I right your email address is there when you click on your user name & brings up info you have decided to leave. If its ok I will email you on my return & maybe we could exchange tel no's & have a chat.
Take care everyone, if there's a raining day, I might just checkin!!

Love Nicky xx
Robbo2
Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 1150
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:34 pm

Hi ladies

Nick - yes you are right it is lovely that it will just be us - although I will miss everyone as there is usually 11 of us go! Friends included - but it's a different holiday when it's just us Smile .

Definitely keep the visualisation up - as I say who knows what helps towards things working.

I hadn't realised George got such bad press - I've only ever heard good things about him - he was my consultant and he is a living god to me! I echo everything Briony says about him and more Wink > I took my LO to see him last year and we had some lovely photos taken so that I can tell DS who helped us to "make" him. If you can get the Chicago tests done as Briony suggested then try and make an appointment with one of the consultants. Will the NHS not do them for you? Sorry I don't really know much about them other than they are for immune issues.

Hi Briony - can't believe it's 4 years today since you lost your twins. It was 4 years in May since we lost our first baby and having got our LO now seems ages ago but it doesn't seem 2 minutes since I was reading of you tragic time. How time flies - my LO is 2 next week - I just can't believe it. As you say it's sad what we have all had to go through but without that time we wouldn;t have our little miracles and I'm sure Wenna and Nick will be joining us soon!

Well best be off as getting late. Keep fighting Nicky and Wenna - you will get there.

Hi Ali - hope you're OK. Not seen your twin boys yet?

Take care

Robbo x
Briony
Joined: 06 Apr 2001
Posts: 8277
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:51 am

Hi girls,

Yes Nicky, that's my email in my profile. Drop me a line when you are back and we'll swap numbers and sort something out. Have a lovely time!

Robbo, I've heard nowt bad about George from patients, but other medics and the press can be pretty scathing. I think the basic problem is that there haven't been any large scale clinical trials re immune tx and so it comes under fire, despite an excellent success rate in a group of some of the hardest cases. As far as I'm concerned though he'd the man! One of the consultants at Northants suggested my repeat m/c must be due to dodgy eggs at 32 and said DE was our only chance, well I've had 3 babies which prove her wrong. Yes, time has flown hasn't it?

Love Briony

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Wenna
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
Posts: 407
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:41 am

Hi Everyone

Sorry not been on for a little while, hope you're all ok!!

Nicky hope you had a good time in Spain and the weather was far better than back here. How're you doing, have you heard any more on the tests you were getting? Hope you're doing ok.

Briony so sorry i missed the anniversary of your twins i hope the day wasn't too hard you!!

Ali hope you're ok and would love to see a pic of your boys to!! Looks like there's going to be more Secret fans soon i just recommended it to a friend too.

Robbo how're you doing? Not long now and you'll be on your hols in the sunshine.

I haven't got alot to tell you all really, we're busy getting ready to start another cycle in December and we're both taking our vitamins, etc dh on Zinc so here's hoping they help. I did go a see a clairvoyant last Friday who told me that i would have a little girl so will be interested to see if she's right when i do get pg again?!? She actually told me loads of stuff and is really accurate but you'll be all snoring by time i'm done waffling but overall it was good. Especially the part about the girls being with my Nan and a dog who looks like my dog but called Laddie (my mum's dog when growing up) and mum found me a picture & sure enough Peps is the spit of Laddie Smile Madison & Jessica are happy and safe with my nan but are waiting for mummy and sent me lots of love, as u can imagine by this point i was a jibbering wreck but felt so lovely at same time iykwim?!?

Well i'd best get on as i'm at work at the minute, hope everyone's well spk soon.

Love Wen xxx

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