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nicster
Joined: 19 Aug 2010
Posts: 1625
PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:15 pm

Wibbly,

I,m so pleased that your hubby is being so supportive, I bet you were so happy that he's with you 100% on this and he'll do whatever it takes, it makes such a difference having that support. Good luck with the weight loss hun.

Thanks for that info on the short protocol aswell, wish I could do that, ive done the long one twice now, this is what is putting me off starting before christmas because if i wanted to know one way or the other before christmas I would have to start at the end of october because it takes 7 weeks !!. Not sure how you stand if you start later and your ec or et falls over christmas. Oh decisions decisions. Going to see what Simon says at the review before I make a final decision.

Leepooh did you do the long or short protocol, bet u cant wait to get started now.

Hel, Good luck for tomorrow hun. Glad hubby saw the light in the end ! look forward to hearing how you get on.

Nicster

xx
Stella Star
Joined: 24 May 2010
Posts: 335
PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:52 pm

Hi Ladies,

Hope you are all ok.

Thank you all for advice how to go on about 'serious' talk. I like the idea of diary Wibbly. Nicster, I know what you mean about biting my tong, but that is sooooooo hard! Think I have to practice a lot. xxx
Think we had a break through though, because I got as good as apology and we discussed things. We had a lovely day today, no work, just doing things together. We haven't had day like this for weeks. Think stress and hurt are leaving now, and we even started to talk about next go.

As you Nicster, Wibbly and Leeane - we were thinking November. It will all depend on finances. Rolling Eyes

Finally, I feel, I have my house under control. managed to get it as tidy and clean as I like to, garden is sorted too (as weather permitted). During the treatment when I was suppose to take it easy, everything struggled. And yes - I did some of the work since Embarassed but just bits, and to be honest I didn't feel like scrubbing place down.. Was too busy crying... Crying or Very sad but now, all of it is done.

I surprised myself today - waiting in the cue in Costco, there was a couple with little boy and his mum had a big baby belly. I managed to smile at her and it didn't hurt to see their happiness. I just want to turn leaves on a calendar and be in November....

I hope you all had a lovely weekend.

S xxxxx
leepooh
Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Posts: 349
PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:57 pm

Hey ladies

I have got toothache now and its killing my might be going to the dentist soon, I hate toothache had an
Abscess last time and it nearly killed me i ended up in hospital for 2 weeks cos of it.

I know what you mean Stella i felt the same my very close friend is 8 months pregnant and when i told her that the ivf didnt work she was like im so sorry and hated the fact that she was pregnant and i wasnt and hated that fact that some ppl dont deserve to have kids and you ladies like us that do and cant. Plus a another friend of mine gave birth the day we found out it had failed and she was like so sorry it did hurt but im ok with it now.

Leeann xxx

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Stella Star
Joined: 24 May 2010
Posts: 335
PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:01 am

Hi ladies,

Lets hope - we are going to have a nice day!!!

Leeann - sorry about your toothache. know the feeling.... x my advice - go asap, these things shouldn't wait.

That's the problem with our age, everyone around us is having kids. My sister in law is due in October - whe is in her early 40s and this is her second baby (first when she was 38 ) and both conceived naturaly. Another friend, who has boy of 18mths (IVF baby), just told me, she is expecting again - this time it just happened naturally. AND i found out our neighbour, 10 years my junior, is due in December with little girl. But, it just gives me more courage to give it another go.

Hel - forgot to mention yesterday - glad your hubby going with you. xxx

Hope you ladies have a fab day today.

LOL

S xxx
wibblywobbly
Joined: 09 May 2010
Posts: 201
PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:30 pm

Hi girls. Well i've hurt my back! Was lifting my old dog into the car, and i think i'd forgotten how much she weighed - lumpy lard arse that she is! Anyway was at work today and this lady told me she was a healer. She put her hands on my back and said that the pain was going into my legs, which it was, and she also said 'mmm, but that's not your only problem' and rubbed her hand across her lower tummy and said, you've got something wrong here as well! You could've knocked me over with a feather - no-one knows at work, so how did she? It could all be waffly bolloxs, but who knows - far be it from me to judge alternative therapies, Karma might come and kick my butt!

Also, i weighed myself today - eek! that's all i have to say on this matter!!!

Stella, you're right! everyone but us is having babies! we have to keep trying though, even though it is heartbreaking!

Hope everyone else is ok today?
xxx

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starbright
Joined: 10 Jun 2010
Posts: 147
PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:55 pm

Hi everyone, Glad everyone is ok. Can i ask a disgusting question. Is anyone bleeding again yet. Its not AF but it like stringy old blood and brown mucus, So sorry for being disgusting but I am just confused with my body. Its been going on for about three days now. Wonder if things are just still settling down xx
leepooh
Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Posts: 349
PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:04 pm

Hey ladies

Think i did long protocol.

star i have ad a bit of a bleeding again it lasted about 4 days, I rang care and they told me it was just my body settling down, but also my belly is really hard lol not pain full or anything just hard, they didnt say anything about that lol.

First day bk at college today im so tired lol think im going to be having an early night.

Leeann xxx

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Stella Star
Joined: 24 May 2010
Posts: 335
PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:52 pm

Hi Ladies,

Another day, another dollar! x We'll need loads of those soon.... x

Wibbly - Sorry you hurt your back - but things are not happening without a reason. If you didn't, you wouldn't found out your coleague is a healer. You know, I am what you'd call a healer too and most of my friends are healers too - in one way ot another... If I were you, I'd ask her for a healing session. You don't have to tell her anything. And you have nothing to loose. xxx It can only help. xxx And - you are brave for weighing yourself - I don't even remember where my scales are.... Confused

Leeann - how is your toothache? What do you do at the college? x

Starbright - I have similar thing going on... AF usualy starts little bit like that, but only very little, and then it comes. But now, its like neverending story....... or neverstarting story? Just waiting and waiting to start properly.... Just want my body back to normal again. xxx

Had night full of funny dreams last night, hope this oe will be better.

LOL to everyone. xxx
S x[img][/img]
leepooh
Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Posts: 349
PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:40 am

Hey Ladies

Still got toothache been to the dentist and he has given me some tablets that are not agreeing with me so i have to go bk and get some different ones.

Im doing history and heritage management degree level.

I weighted myself to last night lol and i have last stone in 5 weeks i was like OMG and DH came running in whats wrong and i said oh nothing apart from the fact I have lost a stone and im in shock cos i have done nothing but eat crap lol.

Have a good day Ladies

Leeann xxx

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nicster
Joined: 19 Aug 2010
Posts: 1625
PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:29 pm

Hi Ladies,

Hope you are all ok, must admit we are all sounding more upbeat this week. Things are manic with me, we've got the builders in so the house is in total kaos and very very dusty !

I know what you mean about the AF thing mine is due officially tomorrow but ive been having pink then brown then pink spotting for over a week now, so who knows when it will start properly.

Still waiting for the Menevit to arrive, seems to be taking ages. Did any of you order it in the end ?

Wibbly was it your review today ?

Nicster
wibblywobbly
Joined: 09 May 2010
Posts: 201
PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:04 pm

Hi Nicster - no review is tomorrow. Will let you know how it goes. Not ordered the menevit, I looked at the ingredients, and my hubby is on all of that already. He's been taking it for 3 years! Hope you don't let the dust get you down hun xx

Hope everyone else is ok.

XX

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Hel75
Joined: 13 Apr 2010
Posts: 342
PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:52 pm

Hi all!!!

Leeann - hows the toothache, hope you managed to get tablets that agreed with you AND stopped the pain!

Wibbly - Hows your back today? I too have an old dog that needs a lift every now and then!!! Good luck with your review tomorrow.

Starbright - my AF was like that and days spotting before and after, sure they'll settle down!

Nicster - hope you're coping with the builders!

Stella - hope you manage a decent nights sleep without the wierd dreams! On both my cycles i've had bizarre, vivid dreams for 1st wk of 2ww, dunno why?!

Hello to betsy and Sharon too!

Well, had review yesterday and think we're going to go with frozen cycle with next AF (beg Oct) so feel in 2 minds, part of me's excited to start again and the other part of me feels like i'm setting myself up for another fall - know thats not the way to think and sure once i get going the positivity will kick in!! Care said they were happy for us to go asap and decided that we wanted to coz if this one doesnt work it'll be tests etc and then can probably only be able to afford one more go. Don't know how any of you feel as not sure how old you all are but i feel very conscious of my age too at the mo', and just wish i was 10 years younger!!! Know women cycle older than me but just something thats playing on my mind at the minute!

Anyway, waffle finished, love to all!
Hxxx

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me & DH - 35
TTC since 05
6 months clomid
1st IVF/ICSI April 2010 - BFN
2nd IVF/ICSI June '10, aug - BFN
FET Oct 10, nov 2nd - BFN
Now starting adoption process... Smile
Approved May 12
nicster
Joined: 19 Aug 2010
Posts: 1625
PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:43 pm

Hel, don't worry too much about your age, ur still young, I was almost 37 when I had my first ivf and that was a bfp ! Start worrying when ur as old as me, I was 39 in august !

Good luck for tomorrow wibbly x

Lots of love to all the rest of you x

Nicster x
Stella Star
Joined: 24 May 2010
Posts: 335
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:13 pm

Hi Ladies,

How is everyone coping with this autumny weather? Had heating on last nt....

Nicster - rather you than me with building work lady! If you manage to get through days of dust and grit in your food - you will be rewarded with beautifull whatever you are having done. GOOD LUCK!!

Wibbly - how did your review went? And hope your back is better. x I agree with you on Menevit - I looked all different ones online, and decided to go for cheaper option as it contains same things. x


Hel - I did, thank you. Think my body was still dealing with hormones as I had worse hot flushes than during treatment itself. It's ok now. x As I said to one of the girls in a different forum - I have 3 friends whos fresh cycle was BFN and then FET - well they have little cuties. thats 4 between them. ALL FET.
So just prepare yourself for beautifull surprise at the end of it. xxx
I know what you mean about the age. Just want to turn clock back!!! x

As I am from abroad and looked at the option to have treatment 'at home'. It would work out lot lot cheaper - the question is, how would I go on about it at work. Would have to spend at least 3 weeks ther.... Well, thinking where is will, ther is way. Is that not so?
Will see.

Hope you all had a great day and look forward to hear from you all.

LOVE S xxx
betsy1
Joined: 15 Aug 2010
Posts: 30
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:52 pm

Hi all

sorry been a bit lazy with posting recently, however I do get on and read during my lunch break at work. Interesting posts about AF I have had nothing at all apart from that feeling that you get a few days before it starts (or I do anyway) and I am now 5 days late!!! not sure what is going on at all. I am almost on the verg of taking a pregnancy test even though I know that the chances are all but nothing!! I know my body is just sorting itself out but is the first AF after treatment usually late? I can usually time it to the hour!!!!

It is getting to that time again when we are starting to all have appointments and start again. I am so excited on one hand and really nervous on the other I just really hope it works for us all this time.

Nicster when did you order your menevit. mine came in about 6 days I was impressed by how quick it was?!!
nicster
Joined: 19 Aug 2010
Posts: 1625
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:58 pm

Hi betsy, I had to order it on eBay Australia in the end so I could use paypal, the Australian direct sites would only accept payment via credit card and I've only got a debit card. It's about a week now since I ordered it.

My af arrived today, day 26, this is the day I usually come on, so no delay here.

Stella, house is still like a building site! We are having the garage converted and a wall in the kitchen knocked down, must be mad !

Nicster x
wibblywobbly
Joined: 09 May 2010
Posts: 201
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:04 pm

Evening ladies.

Just kicked DH off computer!

Betsy - hi hun, good to see you here. Don't worry about AF, she'll arrive when she's good and ready. we know that ivf screws with us!

Nicster - glad AF has arrived for you, soon be time for you to get started again!

AFM, had review appt today, Simon's not recommending immunology, i have no triggers/reasons for suggesting it would tell them anything more, so i have to accept that, i think i knew that anyway having read what the reknowned dr beer has to say on this, i check whether i had any triggers myself and decided no anyway! Well, protocol has been changed, they want to try me on the LP, so am waiting for it to come through so i can diary plan. They think it will hopefully, improve egg quality so they implant this time. Although no guarantees, is there ever! They 50-50 whether it egg or sperm, so we stuffed! They reckon that we stand a 20% chance of getting pregnant, so that means 1 in 5 - three more attempts to go then! LOL! we've decided to give the LP a go and will start DR in October, which means stim cycle in Nov as planned, we can start Sept with DR if we want, but i need to lose this weight i have put on and also need to feel healthy! Sorry for wittering on!

Hope everyone else is ok?

xxx

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nicster
Joined: 19 Aug 2010
Posts: 1625
PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:09 am

Morning girls, Hope you are all ok.

Wibbly,

Glad it went ok with Simon, at least you havent got to have any more tests, thats a relief from a financial point ! Funnily enough I was reading something yesterday about long vs short protocal and it says that impantation rates are better with the long protocol, so fingers crossed hun this could be your time !

I had some issues last time wibbly with egg quality, I saw something on the internet that said Spirulina is good to take when you are stimulating, have you heard that ? or about anything else that helps ?

Feeling a bit fed up at the min, spoke to DH last night about trying again, its the first time we've spoken about it for a while and he was really negative, not because he doesnt want to just purely from a financial point of view. We've put ourselves in a silly position really, we remortgaged and borrowed enough for our last cycle and to get some building work done on the house, well of course the last cycle didnt work and the building work is costing more than anticipated so every spare penny is going into the house to get that finnished. DH says he just cant see how we can afford another cycle. Think its going to have to be plan b, selling my kidney on ebay !!

Nicster xx
wibblywobbly
Joined: 09 May 2010
Posts: 201
PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:40 pm

Hi nicster. Not heard about spirulna, but gonna google it now! Sorry about the financial stuff hun, i know how you feel. We'd saved enough for what we thought would be 3 goes, but now a couple of grand short, so saving like a maniac! Hopefully you will win the lottery hey? xxx

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Stella Star
Joined: 24 May 2010
Posts: 335
PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:25 pm

Hi Ladies.

I solemnly declare that If I will win lottery I will share with you so we can all have a go as many times as we need!!!

Would be good, wouldn't it?

I am so hopeless with all that - What to do etc... Advise that was given to me is that its good to have a footbath in a foothspa during stimulation and then have a fried egg and bacon sandwich on the morning of transfer. It has never failed my friend. The thing is - it hasn't failed me either, but then I think if there is something wrong with little one, is there point for it to stick and then you loose it? Don't know. I had it all - accupuncture, reflexology, foot spa, eggandbacon butty, even reiki that my other friend swears by - at the end of the day, it is up to those in heaven and mother nature in cooperation if the result is going to be ok.
I am going to share something with you - I had best news ever today - my recipient is BFP!!! That makes me feel happy, as I think - my eggies are ok! So next time - it WILL be me!
I thought a lot about wheather to mention it or not, but then I am not using my real name and not posting any other personal details, so I can't be identified. Hope that's ok and I won't offend anyone.

If you find anything wobbly abotu spirulina, let us know... What is it with these wheat shakes? Does anyone know?

Nicster - sorry you feel fed up. Its a horible feeling when money is issue.... I can only sympatise with you..... We had our kitchen extended year ago, and thinking now, wish we didn't, but then my other friend had an IVF and have a baby, but their kitchen roof is leaking.... so you don't know. We want it all, don;t we? xxx

Hope you all had a good day.

xxxx
Hel75
Joined: 13 Apr 2010
Posts: 342
PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:54 pm

Hey ladies,
Nicster I'm also feeling fed up, burst into tears twice at work which i hate doing! I'm worrying about finances too, if our FET doesnt work we'll be having tests which'll eat into money we had for our last try. DH says to stop stressing about it and focus on the here and now and our next cycle... but easier said than done! HATE the fact that whether or not i have a baby may all come down to money... sure you feel the same x

Stella, good news about your recipient and glad you're happy about it too. x

Wibbly, glad your review went well.
Helxx

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me & DH - 35
TTC since 05
6 months clomid
1st IVF/ICSI April 2010 - BFN
2nd IVF/ICSI June '10, aug - BFN
FET Oct 10, nov 2nd - BFN
Now starting adoption process... Smile
Approved May 12
nicster
Joined: 19 Aug 2010
Posts: 1625
PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:09 pm

Oh Stella, thats a lovely thing to say about the lottery, that made me smile. Thanks hun. And well done you for feeling so positive about your recipients good news, your right, you must have great eggies x

Ur right hel its so frustrating that it all comes down to money ! Sorry your feeling down too hun, its horrible isnt it, sometimes its just so hard to pick yourself up

Wibbly, the bit I read on the internet said that Spirulina powder was one of the highest forms of protein and you should take 1-2 teaspoons each day whilst you are in the stimulating phase and also to take Zinc. Its worth a try ! DH has taken his first Menevit tonight.

Thinking about you all tonight, just wish with all my heart that we all get the one thing we want more than anything.

Lots of love to you all.

Nicster x
Hel75
Joined: 13 Apr 2010
Posts: 342
PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:03 am

Hi all,
Quiet on here this weekend, hope that means you've all had busy fun-filled weekend!!!
I've had a quiet one, DH has been away to see mates so I just had a chilled one watching x factor!!! However, think i've been told of about 3 pregnancies over the weekend - always over the moon for mums to be, but always a twang of pain too.
Hope everyones well, our turn cannot be far away xxx

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Hel xxx

me & DH - 35
TTC since 05
6 months clomid
1st IVF/ICSI April 2010 - BFN
2nd IVF/ICSI June '10, aug - BFN
FET Oct 10, nov 2nd - BFN
Now starting adoption process... Smile
Approved May 12
nicster
Joined: 19 Aug 2010
Posts: 1625
PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:27 am

Hi hel, I was thinking the sa
E thing, don't know where everyone has gone! Hello girls is there anyone out there?

My weekend has been ok, haven't seen much of dh he,s been working, but going to cook a nice roast later so we can spend some time together. I know what u mean hel when u hear about pregnancies, there's always that little twinge of wish it was me !

Nicster x
wibblywobbly
Joined: 09 May 2010
Posts: 201
PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:52 pm

Hi Ladies.

I'm still here. been busy at work and home. My sis and neice have been to stay this weekend so not had any time to myself. My neice's laptop is broken, so she domineered mine for the whole weekend!

As you know, last wednesday was our review appointment. No reasons for failure given, they think it could be the sperm, could be the eggs! 50/50 apparently. However, they have now given us only a 20% chance of becoming pregnant using our own 'goods'. They want to try me on the LP, think it may improve the quality of the eggs, but if the sperm is crap then what's the point! We can start again as soon as we like, but i don't know what to do! Think DH wants to go again, but now i'm all unsure again.

I went to see a tarot reader yesterday. She was spot on with everything she said about me and my state of mind at the moment, how i feel about work, how i feel about the people around me and about the fact that i have lost self trust! When she did my 1 year reading, there was no baby card, and apparently i am going to bring something very important to a close very soon, and will go through some serious turmoil during December! Whoopee doo! Lots to look forward to for me then.

I don't know if it is going to come true, i'm a believer in making/changing my destiny, and if i had the energy and the money i'd go for it both barrels!

Anyway, having a lovely beer now, mmm.

Hope you all doing ok.
XXX

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