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pattym · 14 Jan 2012

Oh tig i feel for you the 2ww is the worst part by far. i joked that i would rather have another ec than endure the mental torture of waiting. i do think that most of thr symptoms are just the pessaries. they dk mske you bloated and a bit bunged up so thet cause tummy pain which is very similar to af symptoms. try to hang in there. get your head down at work and then make sure you have some good films to make your evenings go faster. the weekend will be here before long.

i had my review today. i had done quite a bit of reading before hand so we didn't learn much. it was useful though as i guess i understand how some of the tests might work practically.
the consultant suggested that biopsy screening (cgh?) may be useful for us as we could help select the chromosomally normal ones. costs about 2.5k given the cost i think its one to think about if another cycle doesn't work.
We also asked about embryoscope and immune testing. again more costs.
I do feel like it's a massive gamble the more you are able to spend the higher your odds are. if we had a spare 20k then i think i would have all of the tests/ extra procedures done, but unfortunately we don't. i think we just have to have another roll of the dice.

josie67 · 02 Oct 2011

Hi Tigs,

Doing my daily check, and sounds like i need to shake my pom poms at you! I hope that the day at work has helped to take your mind off the very stressful time that the two week wait brings with it. And also that after a day at work, you'll be more tired and able to sleep better tonight. You kind of answered your own question above, in that all of these symptoms could be pointing to a positive or a negative, and i'm afraid you won't know until nearer your OTD, but you could test a couple of days early as drugs will be out of system by then. please try to keep your positivity as you have been doing so so well hun. We are all wishing you the very best and sending loads of positive vibes your way. and some hugs too! xxx

Patty, i will definately do the counselling. might do it over easter as i don't want to miss any after school meetings - i am sooooooooo behind with all of my work right now. I hope the review has gone well for you today. Did you get any answers, or any ideas about what might work next time. What did you ask?xxx

Melski are you ok? I'm hoping the cough has eased off now and you are feeling a bit more relaxed xxx

Em, i know you aren't really on this thread much anymore, but incase you do, i just wanted to say that i hope your discharge has eased and you feel more positive now hun. Look after you and the lovely bun in the oven! Sending hugs xxx

JEP and SMiles, hope you two are both enjoying the precious cargo too, and that you aren't getting too sick with it! Although, i reckon after the journey we put ourselves through, you don't really mind any symptom as it just reminds you that you are very happily pregnant! xxx

Sue - how are you doing hun? I just wondered if you were going to access the counselling like i am, or whether you feel ready to move on without it? Life is so hard. I had my first day back at work today, and although i had to tell the people who knew about it not to mention anything or i might break down, once the kids came in and i realised how much i had missed them, and then the reality check that i was so far behind in all of my work and assessments, the day just flew by! xxx

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Hello beauties

Tiggy - you are in the second week of the 2ww and the blues hit us all around about now. I think it is cause the pessaries are causing havoc and the enormity of it all hits psychologically too. Allow yourself a negative day then tomorrow wake up with your positive brain back on again. Pom Pom tastic Josie , I can do you a little jig, I certainly won't sing or you will stop being my friend!! Wish I could sing well but I'm shocking Sad

honestly all these pains are so confusing - I'm getting loads now and they are worse then any in the 2ww and I still don't know if it is wind, poo, pessaries or wombie stretching. All I know is it is sore & you have to try to ignore it if possible. I think sitting with your hands on your tummy talking to your beanie tonight will help and it's not long now til sat when you test. How did you manage at work? Hope they are all looking after you ok. Are you going to stick to your OTD? I would strongly recommend it if possible as reading posts of those who test early seems to create anxiety either way. Keep smiling chick. We are sending you heaps of PMA!!

Patty - good you had your review and asked some questions. It must be hard to know when to do more tests etc. I can't remember how many goes this was for you? First? Did they seem quite positive the problems known can be overcome? All the tests sound v complicated & expensive. Sounds like you will give another cycle a go then? Any idea when you will cycle again? are et changing anything in your protocol or maybe they haven't told you that yet? I hope you feel one day you will be ready to get back on the rollercoaster but no hurry - you are the right side of 35! Laughing

Josie - back at work with the kiddies then? Glad when you saw them & got back into it you managed ok. The warning colleagues not to ask or talk about it is a good idea. I did the same last time & everyone was really respectful and it certainly caused me to lose less tears than I expected. S do you think you will try another cycle in July - August then to fit in Witt he school hols? Will give you plenty of time to get back to some normal life and enjoy yourself a bit before considering to cycle again. Get a bottle of wine or two under your belt. Oh and have a gnt for me!

Hope everyone else is ok.

Melski - are you over your illness? How's things with you? Are you managing to keep your PMA up?? Pom poms at you too!

Sue - really thinking of you. If and when you want to talk you know where I am. Until then just know all my thoughts are with you both. Hugs xxx

Speak again soon lovelies
JEP
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Melski · 07 Jan 2011

Hi guys, feeling loads better now thanks. Still got a cold and the cough is annoying, but came back to work yesterday and I'm ok. Tigger, I also have no symptoms to report, but think it's really encouraging that you feel like AF is on the way as I felt exactly this way last time. I am hoping for all the positive signs that I got before but as yet, nothing! Hang in there, you're almost there. My OTD is the 28th, so I'm a bit behind you.

As I'm a numbers girl, will be interested to know what our stats are on this thread so far? Did we get the 33% success rate that they forecast and are the odds in our favour/against us based on the numbers??? Will have to go back and find our last list when I've got more time x

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Hey Melski
Glad you are almost over your lurgey - bet that has taken your mind off the 2ww a bit!! Back at work = boo! Hope it's reasonable distraction but you are not having to do too much. Make sure you take it as easy as poss. Are you getting out & about with the Dougster yet! Nice little leg walks for you & him? I hope he is being a good puppy for his mummy!still a while to go til the 28th hey? Bugger! Just make the most of it cause when it is a BFP and a few weeks later you start to feel sick like me you'll wish you'd chilled out a bit more, eaten better and slept more! Got everything crossed for you chick

Yo tiggy
Hows things? Just written on July thread for you but will pop words on here too. I'm hoping you've got your PMA mo-Jo back? If not please let me know as Josie & I will do a duet for you. Make sure you are resting up after work. Are you walking your big girl? I found my doggy was a bit more snuggly with me in the 2ww.... Not sure if she could smell the beanie or just liked having her mum at home?! Now she's lucky to get more than a 5min ruffle every day as I get home and slob out! Is your OTD 24th? Counting down the days.... It is your time!

Lots of love to you both and everyone else too
Big team magpie hugs for all
JEP
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Melski · 07 Jan 2011

Cheers JEP, I'm doing ok during the 2ww. Have no expectations of this cycle, so can only be pleasantly surprised if it's a good outcome and not currently in any rush to get to OTD and face the potential of a BFN. Yes, I've been walking Dougie again the last few days as I'm sure DH isn't as confident around other dogs with him as I am and I think it's important he's socialised, so I'm out doing my bit. Little bugger ran in front of the road the other day though cos I couldn't run fast enough to catch him. Sorry to hear you're feeling rotten, but don't have any sympathy! x

Melski · 07 Jan 2011

Just a quick list update and to see how Tigger's doing. Are you hanging on in there till OTD??? x

Tigger - 1st FET â€“ Finally PUPO with 5 cell Grade 2 embie on board! OTD 24/03
Melski -1st FET (NHS) â€“ PUPO with 5 cell Grade 2/3 & 7 cell Grade 2 on board! OTD 28/03

Shopgirl - DR scan w/c 12/3

RESULTS
JEP-Notts - BFP - lovely heartbeat seen
Em n Rick - 4th IVF/FET â€“ BFP!!!
Smiles - FET - 2 embies transferred (Day 3, Grade 2) - BFP!!
Jaybee - BFP - v.sadly MC at 7.5 wks after scan, we're so sorry hun x
Lala â€“ BFN - lots of hugs xxxx
Lisa84 â€“ BFN - very sorry chick, lots of love xxx
Pattym - 1st IVF - BFN, next time!
Sue123 - BFN - gutted for you xxx
Josie67 - BFN - massive hugs hunni xx

josie67 · 02 Oct 2011

Hi everyone,

Tigs - not long - can't wait to see your BFP! xxx

Hi everyone else - no time for personals i'm afraid as i am at work. xxx

Just some advice please if anyone has any. So with the cycle just gone, stopped bleeding last friday and sorry for tmi but me and dh had a bit of you know what on saturday, and i noticed it hurt a little - not much. But again sunday and again it hurt a little. Then on Monday got a tiny streak of blood in mucus (again apologies for tmi). Just wondering if anyone has had this after failed cycles and whether you know if it is to do with the surgery we've had? I've avoided you know what for the past two days, but still getting the tiniest streak of blood. Should i worry and phone the docs or is it just normal to have it in CMucus?

speak later xxx

Rosey1 · 21 Jul 2011

Hi Ladies,

Hope you are all well and hanging in there.

Just popped on to see how my old cycle buddie Melski is getting on. Good luck with everything Ive got everything crossed for you.

Just to let you know I hand zero symptoms in the 2ww and Im now 7wks3d BFP and had a perfect scan and I still have no symptoms so no sign can be a good thing.

Take care everyone

Love Rosey

xxx

smiles123 · 03 Dec 2010

Hi Tigger, how are you doing hun?
Just wanted to let all PUPOs know about the symptoms I faced (and still am facing) and got a BFP. Might help relate with yours

1) Till 2 days post transfer - no symptoms at all. Freaked me out as I felt so "empty"
2) From 3rd day onwards started feeling the agonising AF pain. It's a "dull" cramp accompanied with back pain. Agonising feeling as you keep thinking ..here comes my periods
3) In the 1st week post transfer, my boobs swelled 2 sizes larger and hurt even when I am asleep. Again this is very typical PMS symptom I get every month.
4) In the 2nd week, boobs became less tender, size reduced back to normal. But now along with the cramps I am getting shooting pains in either side of abdomen. Sometimes cramps are so bad I have to resort to paracetemol and hot water bag.
5) In the 3rd week I discovered I cannot sit on wooden / plastic chairs. My tail bone hurts. Seems like my embies have gifted me a tail! So it either has to be sofa or the bed. I am on holiday now, but hope my office chairs are kinder to my bums.

I tested a day early and got a bright BFP and "2-3" week pregnant sign. Tested again today and got 3+. Now I am in the "awaiting scan period". Scan on 5th April. Which I now realise, is actually even more agonising than the 2 week wait. Because I am still getting constant period pain, boob pain, sometimes see spots of fresh blood, and because the pessaries residue keep coming out, I constantly feel "I think my period just started". So keep doing panty checks.

All the symptoms I am facing are the AF type symptoms. Strangely no other typical pregnancy symptoms. No morning sickness, no heightened sense of smell, no frequent toilet trips (though drinking a lot so dont know where all that liquid is going..) no cravings or aversions to food. I dont feel pregnant, just feel like an extended month long PMS going on...

Will believe I am pregnant only after seeing the scans on 5th.

Sue123 · 21 Oct 2009

Hello everyone,

Just a quick update from me.

I have been bleeding for what seems like days now, and did my HPT again today as I was told to by the clinic and it was negative as expected. So that is the end of it now. I'm trying to get back to normal but also had horrendous migraines all week- partly due to coming off drugs and also loads of stress at work which I wont go into but a really sh***y week all round!

Anyway- Booking a holiday for a week on Sat tonight when I break up from school so that will be something to look forward to.

Josie- I wont be going for any councilling, its not my thing really, I would just get really annoyed with the 'niceness' of it all if you know what I mean. I'd rather just get on with it myself. Re the pain during intercourse, We havent done the deed yet due to my lovely bleeding but I remember after my M/C last year I found it really quite painful for a couple of months. It was as though the size of the hole had shrunk!!! (sorry TMI I know Laughing

) So I think what you are experiencing is probably normal so I wouldnt worry.

Ive updated the list below for me.

Sorry no personals for anyone, Ive not read back the last weeks posts. I will try and catch up at weekend. BFP people- I hope you are all doing ok and getting lots of symptoms, you must be coming up to scans soon. Exciting!!!!

For all the unlucky ones like me- you are all in my thoughts, try and stay strong. xxxxxx

Love Sue.

Tigger - 1st FET â€“ Finally PUPO with 5 cell Grade 2 embie on board! OTD 24/03
Melski -1st FET (NHS) â€“ PUPO with 5 cell Grade 2/3 & 7 cell Grade 2 on board! OTD 28/03

Shopgirl - DR scan w/c 12/3

RESULTS
JEP-Notts - BFP - lovely heartbeat seen
Em n Rick - 4th IVF/FET â€“ BFP!!!
Smiles - FET - 2 embies transferred (Day 3, Grade 2) - BFP!!
Jaybee - BFP - v.sadly MC at 7.5 wks after scan, we're so sorry hun x
Lala â€“ BFN - lots of hugs xxxx
Lisa84 â€“ BFN - very sorry chick, lots of love xxx
Pattym - 1st IVF - BFN, next time!
Sue123 - BFN - gutted for you xxx
Josie67 - BFP- Dropping HCG, Turned to BFN 21/3/12

Sue123 · 21 Oct 2009

Sorry updated that wrong, heres the correct one- sorry Josie.

Tigger - 1st FET â€“ Finally PUPO with 5 cell Grade 2 embie on board! OTD 24/03
Melski -1st FET (NHS) â€“ PUPO with 5 cell Grade 2/3 & 7 cell Grade 2 on board! OTD 28/03

Shopgirl - DR scan w/c 12/3

RESULTS
JEP-Notts - BFP - lovely heartbeat seen
Em n Rick - 4th IVF/FET â€“ BFP!!!
Smiles - FET - 2 embies transferred (Day 3, Grade 2) - BFP!!
Jaybee - BFP - v.sadly MC at 7.5 wks after scan, we're so sorry hun x
Lala â€“ BFN - lots of hugs xxxx
Lisa84 â€“ BFN - very sorry chick, lots of love xxx
Pattym - 1st IVF - BFN, next time!
Josie- BFN - massive hugs hunni xxx
Sue - BFP- Dropping HCG, Turned to BFN 21/3/12

josie67 · 02 Oct 2011

Hi Sue,

Lovely to hear from you hun, and I am sorry that this cycle has been a nightmare for you. What a horrible time you have had. Hugs. xxx You're right, counselling isn't for everybody. I don't know if it is for me yet, but i am going to access it the once just to see. And thanks for your theory on the blood in Cmucus. I think you are right - and i do remember after both m/c it hurting more and feeling like the hole had disappeared! ha! God, the first time we did it after our first m/c, i just burst out crying half way through. Poor DH! But i guess when you try and try and try, and go through what we ivf ladies have gone through, the deed sometimes becomes a mechanical thing and your only thought is that a miracle might happen. I have to say i'm looking forward to not thinking about that for a few months and just having some fun! TMI but you all know what I mean i'm sure.

What's going on at work then? I've been chasing my tail all week. Having had three weeks off, i am so behind and i know i'm going to working all Easter just to catch up with my EYFS profile assessments. my head has been lovely though so i am very lucky. She kept asking me how i was feeling, and i couldn't answer so i've avoided her all week, but last night wrote her an email explaining that i was avoiding that question as i didn't want to end up sobbing. Today she saw me and didn't say a word, just hugged me and walked off. Bless!

Tigs - two more sleeps hun. Have a quick shake of my pom poms to keep you going xxx

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Hello lovelies
I've not been on here for a few days and there's a fair bit to catch up on! Ive been really busy at work then wiped out in the evenings. Been bit worried as all of my sickness gone so not sure what tomorrows scan will show... Just got to get through today first!
I'll get time to do personals after work tonight but wanted to say hi in the meantime.
Tiggy - are you testing on your sat am early weeeee? Or tonight? Have got everything firmly crossed for you. Have requested a flock of magpies to come & find you !!!
Gotta go - time to shake a leg & go get em! !
Lots of love
JEP
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JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Hiya team magpie

Tiggy - helloooooo - where are you? Are you madly distracting yourself from here in the wait for tomorrow or have you tested early? Give us a shout to say where you're at chick. Big big mahhhoooosive lucky Pom Pom tastic luck for tomorrow. Al fingers, toes, legs, eyes and anything else I can find crossed for you.

Melski - how are you, our last PUPO on the list?! I hope you are ticking along ok. Saw your message on your other thread - keep focused on the small things - even a little bit of heartburn can be a positive sign! Think I'm with Konley on the testing the night before thing - do what ever you feel fits in best with you. Guess if you test at night you'd have to not go for a weeee a good few hours before to try and make it as strong as possible? You've got a few days to decide though hey?!

Smiles glad you are ok - good to hear from you. Hope the wait for your scan doesn't seem too unbearable are you holding up ok?!

Sue - oh how awful for you to have horrible times at work with nasty migraine type symptoms as well as going through all of this. I really feel for you chick. I'm really glad you're going to manage to get away. Bet that will be good for the both of you. If I remember right your DH is new on a nurse training having had a change in career. This must have been so tough for him too whilst trying to study. Really thinking of you both. The support you gave me last sept -oct was wonderful as we went through horrible times together. I truly hope you manage to follow your dream and become a mummy one day. Will be keeping an eye out for you chick xxx

Josie - get you and your libido!! Wink

I think all of that is to be expected - I reckon all the drugs mess with your cervix, vagina etc and ovaries and delicate skin down there must be sore and a bit of streaking in mucous is not as bad as I reckon some would get? But yes, enjoy the next few months...have lots of fun! Cause when you start again that will be it again for a few months! If not 9! X

Patty - how are you bearing up? Are you back at work now? Have you got your next steps planned?

Lala - read your other comment on the general thread - I can imagine it would take a while to have your first AF after all the drugs. How are things otherwise babe? Have you anything sorted for the next few months? Holiday or something exciting? Are you planning to cycle again and if so roughly when? Not that I'm going to stalk you at all but would like to keep in touch as the journey progresses for you.

Lisa - haven't heard from you in yonks too - not sure if you still read this board but just I case you do ***hugs*** and wonder what you are up to.

Emnrick - how are you? When is your scan ? End of the month I presume. Hope you are feeling ok. Counting down the days I bet!! Fingers crossed for you to get good news

Right
Think that's me done on the bb today - about bed time for me. Will be on tomorrow after our scan. Anxious ahoy!
Pom Pom shuffles to everyone
Xxx

Tigger83 · 25 Jan 2010

Hi everyone,

Just a quick post from me I'm afraid.

I'm sorry to let the side down but its a BFN for me Crying or Very sad

I'm shocked and stunned to be honest as I really thought it was going to be a bfp. I even dreamt it was only an hour before I tested Sad

I have no signs of af at all which is annoying and I have had lower back ache and lots of watery discharge, both of which I have never had before??? Got to ring care in a min and see what they say but I did 3 different tests and there wasnt even the faintest of lines, so I'm pretty sure its all over for us. I'm going to go and treat myself to a new car now though!

JEP, just wanted to wish you lots and lots and lots of luck for today hunni. I have absolutely everything crossed that your scan goes well and your little beanie is safely snuggled up and growing nicely Very Happy

Lots of love to everyone and every ounce of luck to Melski, come on hun, lets finish our wonderful group with a happy result xxxxx

Noggin · 11 Sep 2009

Tigger I'm so sorry to read your post Sad

If you can't get hold of anyone from Care I'm pretty certain they'll say continue with medication and test again in 2 days.
Sending big hugs,
Love noggin x x

Tigger83 · 25 Jan 2010

Thanks hunni, yeah thats what theyve told me. I know why they say it but it just seems kinda cruel, prolonging the agony only get the same heartbreaking result Sad

Konley · 21 May 2011

Awww Tigger hunni, I've been looking out for your news on and off all morning. I'm so sorry it was'nt what you hoped for. Keep doing the meds though, just in case, and you're right it is dreadfully cruel! Massive hugs xxx

josie67 · 02 Oct 2011

Tigs,

I'm really sorry about the rushed post - but needed to be out half an hour ago. Just wanted to say how much I have admired you for your PMA this time round and to say you are a truly lovely person who deserves this so much. I am shocked that you have a bfn right now, as I also thought this would be your time sweetie. I guess all we can do for you is hope that in two days the story is a different one. But for now, sending lots and lots of hugs and love to a very lovely lady xxx

Also quick one for JEP - hope it has all gone superbly today and you've seen your little bean sweetie xxx

sorry to run, but soooo late!

xxxx

pattym · 14 Jan 2012

Oh tigger i'm so sorry. i really thought it was your time how awful that you have to carry on waiting. i really hope you get a miracle. sending you hugs.

lala73 · 14 Nov 2011

Tigger~ So sorry about your news its so not fair.

JEP~ Hope your scan went well today.

AFM~ AF turned up last night 5 days late, i have my appointment 2nd april to see what happens next. Was going to start straight away but we have our house up for sale and nearly sold but the lady who want ours her buyers pulled out so just have to wait now thought it would be too stressful to do both. Also i'm going 80's weekend at butlins with loads of cousins in may so would NEED to drink lol, so thing i'm going to start after that fingers crossed.

xxx

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Oh tiggy sweetie - really gutted for you babe. I too have been so impressed with your PMA and the fact it had taken such a lot to get you to the 2ww being PUPO bit I thought it would be your turn and perfect for you. I don't want to give you false hope but do keep on the meds & test again as they say. My friend recently had her final iui and got her BFP a week after her test date. The heartbreak must feel awful so take some time - you know where we are if you want to et off some steam or emotions xxx

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

I don't really want to talk about our scan today after such upsetting news from Tig but want to let you know all is still looking ok. Not a brill view as abdominal without a full bladder ( naughty me!) but it's served it's purpose for me.

Thanks for all your thoughts.

Hello to lala - good to hear from you. They often ask you to wait til your 3 rd period to start again anyway so make the most of the boozing you have planned. I figure you'll need a fair bit for your 80's night !!! Have you got a list of questions to ask at your review?

Hi to Josie and patty too. I feel guilty that I can come on here and say about our scan when you haven't got your dreams this time round. It is so bloomin unfair & I'm not happy about it. Feel like having a right old paddy and throwing my toys out of the pram, but I know it will do nothing. I just truely hope that one day you get all you dream of and we all moan and whinge about how tired and haggard we look running around after our babes!

Try and make the most of the weekend - gorgeous sunshine here. I know the sun won't be shining inside your heart Tig, but a gentle walk with your DH and big girl may help a little xxxx

Em n Rick · 14 Sep 2009

Hi ladies
Sorry been awol, been so busy just lately Smile

Tiggs, I'm so sorry sweet, I hope your ok, sending you big hugs xxxx
Jep, read on the other thread about your scan this morning, pleased all is still going well Smile

we have our 7 week scan on Friday, I am counting down the days lol Smile

this wait has been worse then the 2ww.
Smiles, hope your doing well on countdown to your scan Smile

Josie, patty n sue, hope your ok Smile

Josie, I'm sure like jep says everything downstairs will be abit delicate coz of all the strain on your body, I hope everything gets back to normal soon Smile

good for you for getting back into the swing of things Smile

Melski, how are doing hun? Not long to go til wed now Smile

I have my fingers crossed for you Smile

Love to all xxxx