CARE Fertility Bulletin Board

Sue123 · 21 Oct 2009

Hello Josie and JEP,

Good to hear from you both!

Josie - thanks for the kind words about my Gran. She has got nurses going in to help her 4 times a day and my uncle lives with her so she is doing ok. Its hard because we dont know how much time she has, how quick she will deteriorate so its difficult at the moment. Anyway, hopefully for the foreseable future her qualith of life will continue to be pretty good under the circumstances.
Glad you have been having a good time being a bridesmaid to take your mind off things. Know what you mean about the schoolwork- I did 6 weeks of maths planning yesterday so am feeling quite pleased with myself! I was intending starting my reports this holiday too but havent managed it- never mind - I needed to have a good break.
I too have been researching adoption and like you I have found out that the prep course with our council is not until October. I have filled in the initial forms over the phone but I think I might look into a couple of other local authorities to see if they might be any quicker. Its quite scary but exciting too. I will also probably join the adoption angels thread when I know some dates. I have had a quick read and they seem like a good bunch. I have also had a quick look on the adoption uk forum but found it all a bit much. I really dont want to start getting stressed about the whole ups and downs of the process yet so I think I will leave that one alone for now.

JEP- I am glad you are trotting along nicely and beginning to feel a bit better. I'm sure your second trimester will be more enjoyable.
Hopefully my new car will be here next week so I will be trying out those heated seats!! My husband has them in his car and goes mad with me when I put them on in the middle of summer!! Laughing

Well better gat on with some more cleaning jobs, v boring but have to do them while I'm on hols because they wont get done otherwise.

Lots of love and good wishes to anyone elase reading too. xx

Sue

Jc x · 30 Jul 2011

HI sorry to gate crash,
sorry to read your news Sue sending you big hugs xxx.
And congrats JEP how far are you? im 24 week MYSELF i had a surprise BFP i left you all a message in the santuary xxx

Love and Luck to all xxxxxxxxx

lala73 · 14 Nov 2011

Hi Ladies

Sorry i aint been on here for a while, hope everyone is ok i have not caught up with everyone yet will try and read some.

I went for my appointment with doc, i am starting again the end of may we have 1 frozen embie so fingers crossed it defrosts ok. I'm off to butlins the start of May for a 80's weekend so should be good loads of drinking then it is tea total for me.

xxx

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Jc - absolutely chuffed to bits with your news...have posted on our old thread but I hope that your miracle BFP straight after your m/c gives hope to others with failed cycles!! Fabarooni!!

Lala - hey chick - good that you've had your review and are going to get on the rollercoaster again at the end of may. I agree enjoy your time til then...make the most of you 80's night and fun times in general....cause when you get your BFP you won't be doing any of those naughty fun things for a year or so!! Have they altered your drugs/protocol in any way? We you down regging for your FET? Lots and lots of luck for you with it. Let us know how you go....

Hi to everyone else
Big hugs, magpies and cheerleading dancers to all
Xxx

peachy · 26 Oct 2010

A quick question . How long from starting progynova to et for mediated fet ?

Thanks x

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Hi peachy
I can't remember my exact dates. I didn't have to down reg for my FET, but as mine was a blast I was expecting it to go back on day 21 but actually more like day 26 as my lining was too thiin & they wanted to wait as long as possible. Things are a lot more flexible with a FET -they even manipulaite it for when they are not busy and to miss weekends if they can.
FET much easier than a fresh cycle
Good luck!!

Hope everyone else ok?
Lots of love
JEP
X

peachy · 26 Oct 2010

Thanks Jep xx

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Hello to any of my old buddies that are out there still reading this.

Hope you are all getting on ok with e different things life's throwing at you all.

I often think about you all

Just to let you know me & 'flump' are doing well. Had our 12 w scan now and all looks good. Got a v low downs risk when scan combined with bloods it is 1:9600 so I have sworn I'm going to start to enjoy it now (even if just a little bit)!!! Going to tell my g'ma today and show her the DVD they gave us as part of our private nuchal scan. Think it will blow her 83yr old mind!!

Josie - I hope you don't mind but I'm sending your cheerleading crew off around the country to various other people on my July thread - Konley waiting to test and Emma just had 2 put back in! Sending them along with a flock of magpies to try and get them some fab luck like I had.

Lots of love to you all
JEP
Xxx
Hope you don't mind me telling you our update... I thought carefully before I posted but wanted to tell you as you started all of this off with me and I'm very grateful it has worked out for us so far. Keep aiming for the stars and I'm sure you will all reach your dreams
X

josie67 · 02 Oct 2011

Hi Jep,

Lovely to hear from you. You shouldn't have to worry about posting on here. We have been through this experience - however it turned out- together, and I certainly want to hear some happy endings! It wasn't a very lucky thread overall, but at least we have you and Em to light the way! I had just logged in to see what everyone was up to in the other threads, as I don't come on very often now. Obviously i'd just read on the July thread that you had had your private scan. I'm glad that it has had the worthwhile effect of putting your mind at rest. Your lovely little 'flump' is going to be a big flump with a name in your arms before you know it, so enjoy the experience of being pregnant hun, especially as you should be feeling a little better soon in the second trimester. I remember you saying that you are naturally quite a tiny gal, so I wonder if your bump is more pronounced than others with a few more pounds on them to start with? I have seen my cheerleaders around on other threads, and i'm very pleased that they are out there doing what i wanted them to do! Pom pom shuffles and chants to everyone who needs them. I also look out for Em on the April scan thread and i'm pleased everything is going really well for her lovely twinnies! I do see Melski on a different thread too, and i'm glad melski seems to be fine. Sue & Patty I know you post on here like me once in a while, and it is always great to hear from you.
Can't find Tigs or smiles anywhere so girls I hope you are both looking after yourselves and hope to hear from you one day.

Not a lot from me. I have my review booked in for Friday (although I don't know that we really need to go apart from to have closure), then my first counselling the following week. I am hoping that it helps to give me motivation just generally to carry on with day to day stuff. I guess when things don't work out, you kind of go into mourning, grief for what might have been. And i think that, teamed with me never really dealing with my two miscarriages as I just wanted to start trying again, meant that I have a lot of stuff inside preventing me from being genuinely happy. Luckily i am good at putting on a face, but i know that i need to let it out eventually. For me, the effect has been that I have no motivation to exercise, i eat very poorly and I am putting on weight (groan) I have no motivation to do any of my school work, and even housework is a chore - oh, hold on, housework actually IS a chore!! So i'm hoping that the counseller will snap me out of it, and I can start living happily again. I remember that I saw a leaflet at Care, titled 'I can't seem to stop crying'. Well, i manage not to cry cry, but i feel like it very often. Hey - maybe I've spread these cheerleaders a little thin. It sounds as though I need to call them back in for a day! Dearie me eh - I wasn't expecting to write about my feelings, but it just came out, sorry!

Love to everyone,

Johanna xxx

pattym · 14 Jan 2012

Hi there
Jep I am really pleased for you, getting past the 12 week scan must have felt like such a huge hurdle after last time. It's brilliant and I definately want to hear all about your good news. It will be wonderful to be able to tell your gran, I am sure she will be so excited for you. Time to relax and enjoy and make sure you look after yourself. When is your due date?

Josie I know what you mean about not crying. It was only first time round for me, but I felt like I bounced back straight afterwards and then the real struggle came a few weeks later. You have an awful lot to deal with and you really shouldn't give yourself a hard time about the housework and your diet. I think the road to feeling better is all about taking slow steps and so if you can do one small thing every week then you are making progress. I think the counselling will be a positve step and will hoping give you some time to grieve. I've had counselling, a couple of years ago for another issue. I found it useful, there weren't any amazing answers, but it was all about spending some real time trying to get my head straight and letting go of negative thoughts.
Are you still thinking about adoption?
I've called the cheerleaders back in for a sunday night special gig outside of your house. That should set you off on the right track next week. Smile

I turned 32 this week, I usually dread my birthday but I decided to spend my weekend with my mum and my sister on a trip to London. We had a fab time just enjoying the sunshine and I can honestly say I feel happy.
I hope everyone else is doing well and think about you all.
xxx

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Hello girlies
Sorry it's taken til now to reply to you as had a busy week so far.

Josie - I know exactly what you are talking about regarding your emotions. I found I hit rock bottom at the start of December after our m/c in september. I was very sad and quiet initially following this then felt I was 'doing ok' for a bit but then my whole personality seemed to change. I was crying for no reason. Didn't answer the phone when friends called & couldn't be bothered to do or see anyone, just about kept my head above water at work. I turned into a 'limpet' only settled when DH was by my side on the sofa after work. So after a few weeks like that we organised some counselling at care. we had to wait over the Xmas holidays for our appt and I was actually a lot better by the time I got to the appt. it was nice to chat about things though and whilst I didn't feel like I needed to go back I think if I'd have wanted to it would have been ok. I actually felt 'normal' in the new year. I think sometimes maybe we have too high expectations of ourselves and think we should be normal when actually the mind & soul need a bit longer to get sorted. So give yourself some time. No pressure and I'm sure you will find a happy medium again. I hope that you get on ok on Friday. Will be thinking of you. If you can face it let us know how you've got on.

Patty - sounds like you've had similar emotions to deal with too. Yu offer some good advice to josie i think. Youre right abotu not getting any answers but having the time to come to terms with thinsg and maybe just understand it before you can move on. I hope you are doing ok now? Sounds like you had a fab wend in London for your bday. Good idea to spend it doing something a bit different and good distraction me thinks. I'm glad you feel happy and long may it last! Get some good times under your belt before you get yourself back on the roller coaster again. Any ideas yet when that may be?

AFM - I'm ok thanks. Not sure if I am 'showing' earlier than expected due to being a size 10 or not? I've not put any weight on yet compared to my weight a couple of months ago anyway... Although could have lost some initially feeling crap then gained it & more again? I'm having to open my jeans down to the bottom of the zip by the end of the day! Fatty fatty bum bums! Only intermittent nausea now but am tired still bed by 9pm (oh in 8mins that is!!) but awake at 5am aka 'pessary o'clock even though not using them anymore. Oh well....not moaning for one second. Infact secretly looking forward to going shopping this weekend to get some new bras for my enlarging boobs Smile

Anyway
Lots of love to you both
Great to hear from you and keep sane and smiling my lovelies
Cheerleaders, magpies and any other good luck items you can name coming your way big style!! Now and for months and years to come!
JEP
X
Ps hi to everyone else if anyone still reading?
X

lala73 · 14 Nov 2011

Hi Jep,

I have never done a frozen cycle my first was a fresh one, so not sure of my protocol yet. Glad everything is going good for you.

Hope everyone else is ok.

xxx

Tigger83 · 25 Jan 2010

Hey everyone,

Just a quick hello from me. Wanted to pop on and see how everyone was and check my lovely Notts buddy JEP was OK.

JEP,
Soooooooooooooooooooooooo happy for you my lovely. Please do keep updating us, I love hearing how you are doing Very Happy

Josie,
Big big hugs hunni. I know just how you feel. It really is incredibly hard and definitely a form of grief. I often think about where I 'would' be...ie coming up to 12 weeks. I really hope your appt with the councellor went well today and you got something good from it.

Patty,
Lots of hugs to you too hunni. Glad you are out and about and trying to enjoy yourself. It definitely helps, even if just for a while.

Sue,
More hugs coming your way hunni. Sorry about your Gran, life it just so unfair sometimes it really is. Hope you are doing ok and looking after yourself.

AFM,
I'm not entirely sure tbh!?! I'm mostly ok...at least when I dont think about it! I have kinda tried to accept that it is over for us but will see what they say for sure at our review on Tues. If the news is positive, we wont be trying again for at least for the next few years, maybe then will try again but for now, I just cant give it any headspace. It may come back and bite me firmly on the ass at some point but for now, its working! We are going to seriously concentrate on paying off as much off the mortgage as possible to give us the best chance of moving to Cornwall asap! We spent a fabulous week there last week and I really cant wait to live there permanently. I think it will really help to have that clean break away from everything that has happened in this life and move onto our new life, albeit in plan b.

Anyways, lots of love and hugs to everyone and thank you for thinking of me, you girls really are amazing xxxxx

josie67 · 02 Oct 2011

Ayup Tigs, it is sooooo lovely to hear from you chick. It sounds as though plan b is a keeper! Love the idea of living down in Cornwall. Just look after yourselves and put some distance between you and the idea of babies for a few months or more, depending on the review, and you never know, lots of people have caught pregnant when not thinking about it. There is always hope for the future, and you are only a spring chicken really at 28 yrs.

Lala Hun. Good luck for your frozen cycle when you have it. Hope it is your turn next!

I hope that everybody else has had a great week?

Well, we had our review today at Notts. we just went for closure really, but I came out felling a bit numb. He went through the cycle and basically said that bearing in mind we had tried highest dose to still only come out with 7 follies and 6 eggs, then to eventually have only two possible embies, one good one average, and then to have a negative etc, basically meant that he wouldn't suggest having ivf ICSI again at all. He also said there was nothing wrong with the 'environment' and that it was just my egg quality. DH had 21 mill when it is normally 40 million I think, so that is the reason for ICSI, but that my eggs were basically rubbish. He didn't suggest any immune tests as nothing pointed to needing them. So his suggestions were a.) donor eggs and ICSI, but Dh doesn't seem bothered by that, and then this new 'natural cycle' which is basically no drugs just natural and they take your one egg and you chance it. Seems a bit slim chances, so the decision is adoption for sure now. Donor eggs have 10 month wait anyway, followed if you are lucky and it works by the 9 month pregnancy, and adoption about two years. So swings and roundabouts really,

Hmmmmm,

Lots of thinking and numbness,

Love from Josie xxx

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Hey girls
Tiggy - glad you a still floating around on the bb every now & then. Also selfishly I'm glad you don't mind me updating you as I started my fertility journey with you & I do want to keep in touch! Great re Cornwall - beautiful place and I agree plan b if it happens sounds amazing. I think you are right to take the pressure off yourselves and just enjoy life. You've got a new job, new wheels and are going to have great times together anyway. I do think and know that lots of people have 'miracles' that pop along so just keep having plenty of jiggy jiggy when the time is right! A girl who had her mc with me had been trying for possibly 7 yrs maybe, had her mc then got pregnant naturally and is now in the second trimester! And you defo are a beautiful spring chicken - and another huge positive is that your DH is too!!

Lala - good that you will be getting protocol for your FET soon to get started. Did you do a long protocol last time? Ie with the down regulating inj first? I think if you did your FET may have this bit again at the start as most cases do. I didn't need that just tablets so I was lucky missing out the jabs. Hope you are making the most of your time before then!

Josie - am sorry about your review Hun. I suppose they have to be honest as It's your money they are spending and I've certainly seen cases on here where they will be happy to keep trying if the money is there. But they understand how hard it is emotionally too so maybe that's a good thing they have been so honest? Interesting that with donor eggs and adoption the timings would be similar give or take. You may find that over the next weeks & months you change your mind, or that the counselling points you in one direction rather than another. I wish you let's go love, hugs and luck as your journey continues and moves in whatever direction you feel is right for you twoX

Hello to everyone else

AFM I'm doing ok thanks. Mad week with 12-13 hr days but I managed just tired no nausea etc. getting sore boobies so going bra shopping today. Sis in law given me loads of mat clothes so they are in the wash and will help as I'm uncomfortable in my jeans and in a few weeks won't have any work wear for my bottom half. trying not to think too far ahead but work hinting about when I will start my mat leave etc....'I don't know - alright?!' is my reply. Gve me a month then I'll sort my life out! Meeting a friend Tom to do a doggy walk and chat babies as she's just back to work after 6 months off. Will pick her brains on it all me thinks.

Lost of love to everyone
Keep following the dreams
X

josie67 · 02 Oct 2011

JEP - slap on the wrist for you missis - i thought we had collectively said NOOOOOOOOOOO to these long days?! Just relax as much as poss today and sunday - no working at home if you are doing such long hours at work - promise? Hope your new brassieres are 'supportive!' Don't know how you are supposed to know at (sorry - is it 14 weeks?) when your maternity leave will begin. Doesn't it depend on how you feel nearer the time?

And yes - also glad of the honesty from the doc at review. I think on reflection, the only reason i felt numb, is that we had decided adoption anyway - but then to hear the news that the problem is my eggs (because icsi covers for Dh's lower than average mobility) is kind of a kick when you aren't expecting it. All this time we were just 'unexplained infertility' and nobody to blame, and then all of sudden it is all my fault if you know what I mean? So it wasn't a numbness in that I was shocked that we wouldn't be trying again, as that had been predecided, just that i now have to add blame to my list at my counselling I reckon. Does that sound daft?

Josie xxx

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Hey Josie
Slap received and promised am trying hard to sort it all out at work! Hummmhhhhh!! I think they expect you to guess when you want to go off - think most go off at 36 or 37 weeks but I guess it depends on your job etc. then they can get cover organised. But I guess if I'm poorly or struggling then you just go off earlier anyway?! Who knows?! A lot of people save holiday til the start of mat leave so the first week and a half may be hol for me anyway. I don't want to think of it now but know I can't bury my head for ever!!

I know it was a shock for you being told your eggies also part of the problem. I thought out decided about adoption anyway. I think the way I'd look at is that conceiving is a shared thing between the 2 of you and you both had 'issues' that were difficult to overcome. A least this is shared too. And it's not your fault at all.... There is no blame for this awful problem, but it may help your DH to know it wasn't just him that was a contributing factor - if you know what I mean?

Thinking of you both
((((hugs))))

josie67 · 02 Oct 2011

Maybe you can just give them a rough date to keep them happy, but then reserve the right to go earlier if need be?

It was only a shock as they had never mentioned it before. If they had mentioned it at the November review, I don't think we would have bothered with the last cycle you see as Paul seems not to want to try Donor egg route, and then we would have been further in the adoption cycle by now. But these things happen eh, and everything for a reason too. I strongly believe in fate. And you are right of course. No body is really to blame for infertility - it is a horrible horrible thing that happens to so many of us, and I sincerely hope that one day they come up with a miracle cure for all aspects of it for all those future couples who experience the same as we all have at one point or another. Anyway - enough of me babbling on. It feels good to talk to you JEP hun xxx

pattym · 14 Jan 2012

Hi tigger its great to hear from you. i think your cornwall plan is very exciting. it Will do you both the world of good to have a different focus in your lives. i bet your dogs Will love being close to the beach. ours loves the beach, shame it's tipping down today otherwise we would have taken her.
Josie i was sorry to hear the news from your review it sounds like it's knocked you a bit. Jeh is right though it's certainly not your fault. you and dh have just been very unlucky, but it sounds like you are both in this together. it sounds like the consultant was being honest which is hopefully the best thing for you both in the long run. have you thought about taking a break maybe in the school hols you could get away to give yourself some thinking time.
jep i hope you have listened to Josie and that Will be the last of your 12 hour days. glad to hear you are feeling better, the next stage is the 20 week scan where you can find out whether its a boy or girl. ...... exciting times ahead!!
Im not quite as chipper today. i spoke to a friend who moved to oz just before xmas. she had been told that she had gone through early menopause any way you'll never guess. ok you will she is 10 wks gone. im really pleased for her as i know it was a devastating blow when she thought she would never have children. selfish though i am pretty gutted. she was my main support as my other best friend is also pregnant at the moment and the rest of my friends have either one or two children. it seems every time i manage to pick myself up something comes along to knock my back down. we had planned on a trip to oz as a compensation for another shitty year. that seems pretty unlikely now and im finding it hard to see a silver linning. got my nieces christening next weekend plus another invite to s friends christening in June.
Sorry for being such a misery.
I hope everyone else is doing well xxxx

josie67 · 02 Oct 2011

Hi Patty - I think this crappy weather is having an affect on all of us this weekend! Sending you hugs hun. Of course, brilliant news for your friend, you can just imagine the gush of happiness that must have appeared when she found out bless her ,as we keep saying, whenever anybody announces it is a miracle after all, but that doesn't help to make you to feel any better. And You don't sound selfish thinking that. It is just natural to want somebody who understands what you are going through. I don't think i said this before, but out of all of my friends, only one has ever gone through tests etc for infertility, but they were lucky enough to fall pregnant after 5 months of clomid. She had spoken to me in tears many a time during the investigations and i had offered lots of advice and support to them both, as you do, but had also found it (I feel awful saying this) but a relief that it wasn't just me out of all of my friends - finally somebody else who would understand, and would take the attention away from me. Then as i say -she fell pregnant after 5 months of clomid, and she hasn't needed me or spoken to me about things since. She has a gorgeous little girl which I am so happy about, but you do feel alone in this journey at times. Just know Patty that we are still here for days that you feel down.
Thanks for your advice too - yeah it knocked me - but you kind of get used to it don't you, and I don't even understand why it did knock me as our decision had been predecided anyway. I sent my adoption letter back to the agency few days ago. I think it is just that syndrome where (here is an analogy) you are perfectly happy eating a scrumptious sunday roast lets say, but then somebody comes along and says that because you are happy eating the scrumptious sunday roast, you are never allowed to try any puddings any more for the rest of your life. Although you love you sunday roast, suddenly all you want is pudding. Everywhere around you people are eating pudding and you want it but can't have it! You are fine with what you have, and accept it - but it will never stop you wanting just a little bit a pudding! Do you know what I mean? (Ramblings of a mad women eh! lol)
So - OZ - why not still go eh? YOu wouldn't have to spend all your time with your friend. Oz is a wonderful place and you could have an amazing holiday, travelling about. And perhaps stay with your friend a couple of nights maximum. You can take the cheerleaders with you for a bit of false cheer if you needed it? Why miss out on a wonderful quality holiday with your dearest H. Where does she live? I've only been to Sydney, (oh the blue mountains are gorgeous) and Cairnes, but i just think the lifestyle is so relaxing there it would be really great for you both. Go on Patty - get it planned in hun xxx

Lots of love to everyone,

Josie xxx

(PS - Sue - I spoke to the ladies on 'what next' thread - they are sooooo lovely. Might see you there?x)

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

hey girls

I agrgee this crappy weather is making us lose our 'mo-jo'!!!! Ims ure when the rain stops we will be brighter hey?

I have to say Patty I agree wiht Josie - it is crap that you have been knocked by some more pregnancy news but I would not let that stop you making the holiday of a decade and getting over there. You can still get her support and see her but travel and make the most of the beautiful place - you may never want to come back though?!!!! Ive been a couple of times and must say if it was only say as far away as Spain I would live there and would have moved about 10yrs ago. It's just so bloooooody far away!!!! but on a serious note you are not mean for having those feelings, it just feels horrid that everyone else has better luck in this fertility lark then we have until now. But that will change in the future - what ever path you go down Im sure you will reach your goal, be it more IVF treatment, or adoption like Josie. You just have to stay focussed. The way I looked at it with friends is that I have been pretty lucky all my life and this is our bit of bad luck. They may not have been so lucky, or may have crappy families, or jobs etc etc and at least you are in a wonderful relationship and together you can conquour (cant spell that Im sorry!) what ever is thrown at you.

I think I must have a friend who feels like this now about me - when i told her we were having IVF she admitted theyd also been having trouble too - not tried so long but has just had 3 failed IUI's and starts IVF next cycle. I said to her to consider me the hope that it will and does work, but i bet deep down she is also a bit peeeed off that it has worked for us ??? who knows? she certainly hasnt called me since i told her our 12w scan was ok. i guess we all deal with things differently though hey?

so the summary of that waffle is get on-line & start looking at flights!!! that will defo give you something to aim for! can you go before you cycle again or will it maybe be a holiday to plan & save for so a 'if' the next cycle doesnt work? hoping whole-heartedly that it does though chick

mwah to you both
lots of love from me and happy to chat and cyber hug anytime
xxx

pattym · 14 Jan 2012

Thanks girls, you are both great and I really appreciate that you understand where I'm coming from.
We will still go to Oz (Perth) at some point, but probably after she has had the baby. It was going to be our fall back plan for Dec /Jan as xmas was so bad this year with all of my friends coming home for xmas and meeting up their new babies or gushing about pregnancy news that I just wanted to avoid going through that again. Hey ho, if we aren't lucky enough to be preggers by xmas then we will have to do something else instead. i will still visit my friend in oz, i have found that seeing people with babies is actually fine. but pregnant friends are tough. once the baby is here then it will be fine. I am of course made up for her as i know she had an awful time. It's just another one of those annoying 'we stopped trying and guess what!'
Jep friendships are tough and i hope you get back on track with your friend, there really isn't anything you can do to make it better, you've been through enough yourself and you deserve to be happy. i know that i will get things back on track with my friend who is due in a couple of weeks and my friend in oz. i have to admitt that it's been tough seeing her, but i've made an effort to keep it up as i know in the long run, however things work out that i still want to be friends with her.
Josie i like your roast dinner analogy! i am a pudding person myself so that one really rings true for me! good to hear that you are taking the first steps towards adoption. I really hope that the system has improved as there does seem to have been some focus on it from the government, so you could be looking at 18 months. are you dealing direcly with your local authority, or an via an agency?
Ok dh has cooked a casserole for dinner, so time to tuck into that and stop felling sorry for myself.
Have a lovely evening Smile

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Oh patty -great to be planning the oz trip - who knows you may take an ickle bambino with you?! I know someone who took her baby to NZ as had emigrated away from family. Flew less than 6m old then again at 18m and v hectic when older & she recommends the younger the better!! Either way it's something to look forward to and agree get something else sorted this Xmas if that is a bad time for you.

We all know exactly how you feel I'm sure.

We are trying to find some s/c accom in croyde in Devon for late sept - I will be 34 weeks ish if all going well so just want a week to chill & hubby will be content surfing every day whilst I sit on my bum reading trashy magazines! I do keep joking saying we need to make sure they have laminate flooring in case my wAters break...haha - can joke about it now but if it all progresses along ok I'm sure I'll be petrified by then!

Lots of love
Xxxx

pattym · 14 Jan 2012

Thanks Jep I'm back to being upbeat again today. I think it was all that rain, plus hangover yesterday that really tipped me over the edge. The sun was shinning up in Manc today though so all good Smile

Trip to Devon sounds great, we usually get the the last bit if sun in Sept. Just make sure you stay on route to a hopspital otherwise poor DH may have to do the honours.

JEP · 26 Jun 2011

Aloha,

Just wanted to write a quick post on here to say hi. I wonder how you are all doing and wanted to send you some love!

Patty - with all this bloomin rain of the last few weeks I've been wondering how you're doing - knowing how much the precipitation dropped your mood and all that! Hope you are doing ok

Josie - how's things for you chick? Work still pootling and ok? Bet ou are counting down til the holidays - not long til half term if I think I've got my dates right! Then the summer hols not far away at all. Hope you are bearing up. Any more news on the adoption front?

How is everyone else doing?

Smiles don't know if you will read this but I hope you have got over your awful experience of your septic miscarriage and are now starting to feel physically & emotionally better. It will take you some months to feel completely better I'm sure so don't ur too much pressure on yourself. Sending you hugs x

Emnrick - not heard from you for a while so hope things going ok!

Sue, tiggy, Lisa, lala....sending you all love

I'm ticking along ok starting to get energy back again now which is good and less nauseous. Eating loads but just managed to start doing some pregnancy safe exercise so aiming for twice a week plus all my dog walking to burn off some xs calories. Although it just makes me more hungry!! Now sickness gone I'm trying to eat more healthily so yesterday it was banana, apple, two plums, sultanas at work. Plus a bag of wotzits, a wispa and a few quality street! Oh and a sarny for some protein. The lunch bag I take my food in is overflowing! Tummy on show now as 15w today. Think mostly people would look at me & think I've just porked on some pounds though. By the end of the day it is more noticeable.

Lots of love to you all
Don't feel you have to reply but I wanted to say hello and send my love
JEP
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